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From: Larry on 2 Aug 2010 16:45 Not surprisingly, I have found a fatal flaw in my argument. I suspected that this would be the case. It is Lemma 12 if anyone is interested. I had made the claim that: 3^(n-1) + 3^(n-2)*2^a_1 + 3^(n-3)*2^(a_1 + a_2) + ... + 3*2^(a_1 + ... + a_{n-2}) + 2^(a_1 + ... + a_{n-1}) = (3 + 2^(a_1))(3 + 2^(a_2))*...*(3 + 2^(a_{n-1}) - (3)(3 + 2^(a_2))*...*(3 + 2&(a_{n-1}) - 3^(n-2) Very sorry to have posted here when there was such an obvious mistake. I should have caught this myself before posting. Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts! I always appreciate honesty. :-) -Larry
From: Larry on 5 Aug 2010 02:45
On Aug 3, 12:54 am, Gottfried Helms <he...(a)uni-kassel.de> wrote: > Am 02.08.2010 22:45 schrieb Larry: > > > Not surprisingly, I have found a fatal flaw in my argument. I > > suspected that this would be the case. > > > It is Lemma 12 if anyone is interested. I had made the claim that: > > > 3^(n-1) + 3^(n-2)*2^a_1 + 3^(n-3)*2^(a_1 + a_2) + ... + 3*2^(a_1 + ... > > + a_{n-2}) + 2^(a_1 + ... + a_{n-1}) = > > > (3 + 2^(a_1))(3 + 2^(a_2))*...*(3 + 2^(a_{n-1}) - (3)(3 + > > 2^(a_2))*...*(3 + 2&(a_{n-1}) - 3^(n-2) > > > Very sorry to have posted here when there was such an obvious > > mistake. I should have caught this myself before posting. > > > Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts! I always appreciate > > honesty. :-) > > > -Larry > > Hi Larry - > > good to see that. > I've taken a look into your text, and although there is a lot > of things I know from my own fiddlings, it was not easy for me > whaich of the 16 items was the crucial one, that step that > "no one before could solve"... I suspected it was around item 16 > > If you like you may look into my own treatize, where I -beginning > at the same path like you - arrived at a more general argument, which > too is not yet solved and eithercollatzimplies this (or vice versa) > See > http://go.helms-net.de/math/collatz/aboutloop/collloopintro_main.htm > (this is html, but only poorly formatted, and one of my first > hobby-treatizes on numbers at all) > > or > > http://go.helms-net.de/math/collatz/Collatz061102.pdf > > which is more compact, better formatted - I'm doing another edition of > that text, but this is only 50% rewritten (and I don't know whether I > find the time to really proceed... :( ) > > Regards - > > Gottfried Helms Hi Gottfried, Thanks very much for the feedback and the link! If so many people on this alias had difficulty following my argument that strongly suggests that I did not spend enough time making sure each point was clear. Of course, if I had done that, I would have found my error that much sooner. :-) I will be glad to take a look at your paper on the Collatz Conjecture. Cheers, -Larry |