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From: Franklin Stubbings-Internet terrorist on 10 Jul 2010 20:46
John Sisker <jsisker(a)sprynet.com> :

>WARNING: Using a fake name, Franklin Stubbings's premise is simple...
>"a lie is as good as the truth if he can get someone to believe it."
>But heed this warning; he has tried all of this before. Just look
>back on this newsgroup, and there he will be in all his pathetic
>ugliness. Yet, this time it is much worse. Out to undermine this
>newsgroup to the point that seemingly he alone appears to be the
>only authority on cruising, he not only fabricates everything he
>says, but does much of it by stealing the identity of many
>others, including yours truly, as the means to this end (if a
>posting seems out of character or obscene, be sure to check the.
>Headers - if it's from X-privat, octanews, frell or Mixmin, it's a
>forged post from Franklin Stubbings). Besides the identity theft,
>this time he is blatantly stalking many of us into other newsgroups
>that we frequent, with the intent to disturb and spread his lies there
>as well. It was even shown that this is not the only newsgroup that he
>is trying to disturb this way; there are several others as well, even
>an aviation group in which he is apparently stealing the identity
>of actual pilots, where periodic warnings to readers about Franklin
>are posted. He has pretended to be a pilot there; here he pretends to
>be a travel agent.
>
>Unfortunately, because of these very antics by Franklin, many of the
>regulars have already moved on to other forms of communication,
>including many of the travel agents. And after chasing them
>away by posting vile messages under their names, he chastises
>them for leaving the group. He then tries to fool readers here
>that he is the savior of the group - when in fact he is the
>person who has caused the anarchy here.
>
>Others are simply waiting and hopefully for a time when it is
>safe to rejoin this group. Yet, to Franklin, it doesn't matter...
>he simply continues to post and adds threads using the identities
>of these others, saying and implying things that they would
>never actually say. And just look at his current signature line,
>doing the exact same thing that he accuses many of us as doing.
>Yet, unlike Franklin's signature, ours is at least in keeping with
>what is acceptable according to the Charter guidelines. Plus,
>follow our links, which will lead you to actual and legitimate
>connections, affiliations and licensed endeavors. That can't be
>said of the associations Franklin claims; a website that attracts
>spammers, in addition to certifications that have never heard of
>him.
>
>Now we all know that this post and information will simply be
>met with more lies, negative comments and innuendos by Franklin,
>staying true to form, with him possibly tying to add clout by
>again taking on the identity of some of these other regulars. As
>to his bashing of me personally (which in this case will be a
>forgone conclusion) one only needs to look to the source. He
>hasn't been accurate yet in anything he has said, so it is of
>little consequence what he tries to makes up in this reference.
>Nothing has changed on my end at all, but apparently this is not
>the case with some of the services he claims as leverage in his
>dealings. Even they have a problem claiming something that he is
>not, and using foul language to boot. What can be done in the
>meantime until such antics can be stopped? On our part, that
>answer is simple. Totally ignore everything Franklin Stubbings does
>and says, don't believe a word of what he tells anyone, be suspicious
>of others actually backing and endorsing such behavior (it is
>probably just him anyway), and let's simply go about business as
>before - minus Franklin Stubbings.
>

Heh! John, I don't think it's fair for you to say that about me.

Franklin Stubbings
(usually posting to alt.comp.freeware with socks)























































From: Ari Silverstein on 10 Jul 2010 22:54
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:46:39 +0200, Franklin Stubbings-Internet
terrorist wrote:

> John Sisker <jsisker(a)sprynet.com> :
>
>>WARNING: Using a fake name, Franklin Stubbings's premise is simple...
>>"a lie is as good as the truth if he can get someone to believe it."
>>But heed this warning; he has tried all of this before. Just look
>>back on this newsgroup, and there he will be in all his pathetic
>>ugliness. Yet, this time it is much worse. Out to undermine this
>>newsgroup to the point that seemingly he alone appears to be the
>>only authority on cruising, he not only fabricates everything he
>>says, but does much of it by stealing the identity of many
>>others, including yours truly, as the means to this end (if a
>>posting seems out of character or obscene, be sure to check the.
>>Headers - if it's from X-privat, octanews, frell or Mixmin, it's a
>>forged post from Franklin Stubbings). Besides the identity theft,
>>this time he is blatantly stalking many of us into other newsgroups
>>that we frequent, with the intent to disturb and spread his lies there
>>as well. It was even shown that this is not the only newsgroup that he
>>is trying to disturb this way; there are several others as well, even
>>an aviation group in which he is apparently stealing the identity
>>of actual pilots, where periodic warnings to readers about Franklin
>>are posted. He has pretended to be a pilot there; here he pretends to
>>be a travel agent.
>>
>>Unfortunately, because of these very antics by Franklin, many of the
>>regulars have already moved on to other forms of communication,
>>including many of the travel agents. And after chasing them
>>away by posting vile messages under their names, he chastises
>>them for leaving the group. He then tries to fool readers here
>>that he is the savior of the group - when in fact he is the
>>person who has caused the anarchy here.
>>
>>Others are simply waiting and hopefully for a time when it is
>>safe to rejoin this group. Yet, to Franklin, it doesn't matter...
>>he simply continues to post and adds threads using the identities
>>of these others, saying and implying things that they would
>>never actually say. And just look at his current signature line,
>>doing the exact same thing that he accuses many of us as doing.
>>Yet, unlike Franklin's signature, ours is at least in keeping with
>>what is acceptable according to the Charter guidelines. Plus,
>>follow our links, which will lead you to actual and legitimate
>>connections, affiliations and licensed endeavors. That can't be
>>said of the associations Franklin claims; a website that attracts
>>spammers, in addition to certifications that have never heard of
>>him.
>>
>>Now we all know that this post and information will simply be
>>met with more lies, negative comments and innuendos by Franklin,
>>staying true to form, with him possibly tying to add clout by
>>again taking on the identity of some of these other regulars. As
>>to his bashing of me personally (which in this case will be a
>>forgone conclusion) one only needs to look to the source. He
>>hasn't been accurate yet in anything he has said, so it is of
>>little consequence what he tries to makes up in this reference.
>>Nothing has changed on my end at all, but apparently this is not
>>the case with some of the services he claims as leverage in his
>>dealings. Even they have a problem claiming something that he is
>>not, and using foul language to boot. What can be done in the
>>meantime until such antics can be stopped? On our part, that
>>answer is simple. Totally ignore everything Franklin Stubbings does
>>and says, don't believe a word of what he tells anyone, be suspicious
>>of others actually backing and endorsing such behavior (it is
>>probably just him anyway), and let's simply go about business as
>>before - minus Franklin Stubbings.
>>
>
> Heh! John, I don't think it's fair for you to say that about me.
>
> Franklin Stubbings
> (usually posting to alt.comp.freeware with socks)

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