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From: Oliver Schonrock on 5 Nov 2009 10:39 Hi Alex You are probably aware of the discussion here:http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5132 Obviously php5.3 is major upgrade which breaks some backwards compatibility: http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration53.incompatible.php and poses some new challenges for compiling the ports eg for the new native mysql driver for the mysql(i)/PDO extensions: http://www.php.net/manual/en/mysqlnd.install.php We are very active users of the php ports, are keen to upgrade to 5.3 (and 5.3.1 when released) and wanted to offer our help in testing of the new ports if that's helpful. Do you plan to create a php53 set of ports or just update the php5 set? How far have you got? Kind Regards -- Oliver Schonrock _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Alex Dupre on 6 Nov 2009 07:05 Oliver Schonrock ha scritto: > Do you plan to create a php53 set of ports or just update the php5 set? The plan is to update the current set of php5 ports. The update is quite ready, but one important piece is missing: Zend Optimizer. This waiting time will also allow developers to make their application compatible with php 5.3.x. -- Alex Dupre _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Miroslav Lachman on 6 Nov 2009 09:19 Alex Dupre wrote: > Oliver Schonrock ha scritto: >> Do you plan to create a php53 set of ports or just update the php5 set? > > The plan is to update the current set of php5 ports. The update is quite > ready, but one important piece is missing: Zend Optimizer. > This waiting time will also allow developers to make their application > compatible with php 5.3.x. So you don't plan to leave 5.2.x version in ports for people who need to maintain servers in production with many clients and many 'old' web applications? Miroslav Lachman _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Alex Dupre on 6 Nov 2009 09:30 Miroslav Lachman ha scritto: > So you don't plan to leave 5.2.x version in ports for people who need to > maintain servers in production with many clients and many 'old' web > applications? Like we don't have ports for php 5.0 and 5.1, I'll not maintain ports for 5.2 when the switchover will take place. As you can see here (http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration53.incompatible.php) there aren't many incompatible changes. -- Alex Dupre _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Miroslav Lachman on 6 Nov 2009 11:25
Alex Dupre wrote: > Miroslav Lachman ha scritto: >> So you don't plan to leave 5.2.x version in ports for people who need to >> maintain servers in production with many clients and many 'old' web >> applications? > > Like we don't have ports for php 5.0 and 5.1, I'll not maintain ports > for 5.2 when the switchover will take place. As you can see here > (http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration53.incompatible.php) there aren't > many incompatible changes. I know there were not repo copy of older versions of PHP, but I think this is where FreeBSD is loosing some points on "enterprise" market against some other server OS distributions. I know it is all about mans power and I am not trying to put some pressure on you. Maintaining ports is not simple task and I know you are maintainer of lot of them. I am just thinking that it would be better if we can have versions of PHP as with Apache [1.3, 2.0, 2.2] or MySQL [3.23, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, 5.4, 6.0 = all well maintained by you, of course ;)], or Postfix, Perl, Python... so users and companies can stick longer time with "what is well tested and working in production". (same as we have choice of FreeBSD versions ~ 6.3, 6.4, 7.1, 7.2 + 8.0 in the near future) Even if there are just a "few" incompatibilities, it means some clients applications on webhosting will stop working and clients will scream on helpline right after the update of the servers PHP... I know it is not your problem etc., it is just a real world scenario of some near future days ;) So in my opinion it would be benefical to users if ports infrastructure can handle all vendor supported branches for any port. PHP is just an example in this case. Miroslav Lachman _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org" |