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From: Elmar Stellnberger on 12 Mar 2010 12:43 Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. If you are working with texts in different languages there is no alternative to UTF-8. If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset troubles if you are still using the old iso-8859-1. By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted correctly. _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: =?UTF-8?B?6JGJ5L2z5aiBIEppYXdlaSBZZQ==?= on 12 Mar 2010 13:23 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Elmar Stellnberger <elmstel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? > It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. > If you are working with texts in different languages there is no > alternative to UTF-8. > If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset > troubles if you are > still using the old iso-8859-1. > > By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. > However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: > i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and > asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted > correctly. Do you have a concrete example of how FreeBSD fails to support UTF-8? I have been setting my LANG to zh_TW.UTF-8 for years without problem with modern software. As this is the ports list, I guess you have some issues with the software in the ports collection? CW. -- "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then to the end user it's a duck, and end users have made it pretty clear they want a duck; whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Dominic Fandrey on 12 Mar 2010 14:49 On 12/03/2010 19:23, 葉佳威 Jiawei Ye wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Elmar Stellnberger <elmstel(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? >> It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by default. >> If you are working with texts in different languages there is no >> alternative to UTF-8. >> If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset >> troubles if you are >> still using the old iso-8859-1. >> >> By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. >> However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: >> i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and >> asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are interpreted >> correctly. > Do you have a concrete example of how FreeBSD fails to support UTF-8? > I have been setting my LANG to zh_TW.UTF-8 for years without problem > with modern software. As this is the ports list, I guess you have some > issues with the software in the ports collection? I second this. I've been using en_GB.UTF-8 since 5.3. Even the file system can deal with UTF-8 encoded file names. I tried to create files with Arabian, Chinese, Russian and other characters. It all worked. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Gergely CZUCZY on 16 Mar 2010 06:10 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:49:16 +0100 Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze(a)bsdforen.de> wrote: > On 12/03/2010 19:23, èä½³å¨ Jiawei Ye wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Elmar Stellnberger > > <elmstel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Isn`t it time for FreeBSD to fully support Unicode/UTF-8 by now? > >> It is considered to be standard charset by now. XML uses it by > >> default. If you are working with texts in different languages > >> there is no alternative to UTF-8. > >> If you chat with a Linux machine you can easily run into charset > >> troubles if you are > >> still using the old iso-8859-1. > >> > >> By now it is no problem to activate UTF-8 for your console. > >> However a comprehensive Unicode support would require much more: > >> i.e. configuring all user packages like KDE for Unicode support and > >> asserting that also file names (f.i. from ext2 partitions) are > >> interpreted correctly. > > Do you have a concrete example of how FreeBSD fails to support > > UTF-8? I have been setting my LANG to zh_TW.UTF-8 for years without > > problem with modern software. As this is the ports list, I guess > > you have some issues with the software in the ports collection? > > I second this. I've been using en_GB.UTF-8 since 5.3. Even the file > system can deal with UTF-8 encoded file names. I tried to create > files with Arabian, Chinese, Russian and other characters. > It all worked. > I think he is referring to the syscons. Syscons lacks UTF supports, though some work is being done: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SysconsUnicodeProject _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
From: Ivan Voras on 16 Mar 2010 06:31 On 03/16/10 11:10, Gergely CZUCZY wrote: > I think he is referring to the syscons. Syscons lacks UTF supports, > though some work is being done: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/SysconsUnicodeProject Correct sorting (collating) is another problem. _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports(a)freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe(a)freebsd.org"
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