From: Chip Eastham on
On May 10, 10:04 am, Gerry <gerry...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 12:36 am, Chip Eastham <hardm...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 5:43 pm, galoisgroupquestion
>
> > <galoisgroupquest...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 07.05.2010 10:35, galoisgroupquestion kirjoitti:
> > > > > Hi, I need to verify some of my Galois group
> > > > exercises using GAP.
>
> > > > > How do I find the Galois group of the polynomial
> > > > > x^4 + 2x^2 + x +3 over Q using GAP?
>
> > > > > Can I also find the splitting field of it using
> > > > GAP?
>
> > > > > How do I also find the Galois group of the same
> > > > polynomial over GF(7) rather than Q?
>
> > > > > I googled and tried it, but it was not successful
> > > > so far.
>
> > > > > Any help will be appreciated.
>
> > > > > Thanks.
>
> > > > Listen some good reggae (for example Dr Mooch:
> > > > Virginia) and
> > > > think the problem anew.
>
> > > > Rike
>
> > > Don't reply if you have no intention to help.
> > > It is a waste of time to read your stupid reply indeed.
>
> > I like Rike's suggestion very much and appreciate
> > the time taken to reply.
>
> > However I will suggest that while the polynomial
> > x^4 + 2x^2 + x + 3 is irreducible over Q, it is
> > not irreducible over Z/7Z. I believe the GAP
> > command you want requires an irreducible polynomial
> > as input. See:
>
> >http://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/htm/ref/CHAP056.htm
>
> > regards, chip- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Use
>
> p1:=X^4+2*X^2+X+3;
> g1:=Galois(p1);
>
> gives "S4"
>
> The roots are :
>
> x1= 1/2*sqrt(r)-1/2*sqrt(-4-r-2/sqrt(r))
> x2= 1/2*sqrt(r)+1/2*sqrt(-4-r-2/sqrt(r))
> x3=-1/2*sqrt(r)-1/2*sqrt(-4-r+2/sqrt(r))
> x4=-1/2*sqrt(r)+1/2*sqrt(-4-r+2/sqrt(r))
>
> and
>
> s = 1/2(-389+3*I*sqrt(11631))
> r = -4/3 + 40/(3*s^(1/3))+1/3*s^(1/3)
>
> So s is a root of the quadratic :
>
> x^2+389*x+64000
>
> and r is a root of the cubic :
>
> x^3+4*x^2-8*x-1
>
> i don't know the answer to yout other questions.

Well, it's not really my question, but notice that
with your notation:

p1:=X^4+2*X^2+X+3;

if we were to work over Z/7Z, then at X = 1
we'd have p1 = 0. Using synthetic division
over Z/7Z:

p1 = (X-1)(X^3 + X^2 + 3*X + 4)

If the cubic factor were reducible over Z/7Z,
it would have a linear factor, i.e. a root in
Z/7Z. But these are quickly ruled out, esp.
if we check +/- pairs together by computing
the odd and even terms of the cubic.

Now the splitting field of p1 over Z/7Z must
be the splitting field of its cubic factor,
and the only possibilities are that the
splitting field is isomorphic to GF(7^3) or
to GF(7^6), depending on whether adjoining
one root is sufficient to split the cubic.

Syntax for constructing an algebraic extension
of a field is described here:

http://www.gap-system.org/Manuals//doc/htm/ref/CHAP065.htm

and moreover once the field extension is in hand
the GaloisGroup command may be applied.

regards, chip