From: Henri Wilson on
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:52:49 -0400, "T.M. Sommers" <tms(a)nj.net> wrote:

>T.M. Sommers wrote:
>> Henri Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> ADoppler DOES exist. George merely wants it to go quietly away so his
>>> faith
>
>>> be of the same order as the observed brightness variations.
>>> My theory says that photons DO contract and extend due to this source
>>> acceleration and these effects are roughly in phase with the macroscopic
>>> bunching...... BUT the changes are reduced markedly by a factor 'K',
>>> which may
>>> be of the order 10^-5.
>>
>> That sounds like a fudge factor to me. What is the theoretical
>> justification for K?
>>
>>> This appears logical because, whilst there appears to be
>>> NO restriction on the way aligned photons might move wrt each other,
>>> photons
>>> are likely to resist 'compression ' and extension like an conventional
>>> elastic
>>> material.
>>
>> Are you saying that photons are not points but have extent and some
>> internal structure, or are you just talking about wavelength?

If photons were nothing but 'points' they wouldn't be photons...

>Are you going to answer these questions, Henri?

No, they're too stupid...



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From: sean on
On 24 Aug, 16:34, Randy Poe <poespam-t...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 12:45 am, sean <jaymose...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > All evidence. Not likely . Most if not all evidence points
> > to light being a wave only.
>
> You mean all those photon detectors aren't real?
Did I say they werent real? No. You did
Look at the thread `what evidence photons` from a few years ago. In it
I show that one can mechanically explain the apparent particle like
effects
in a pmt and I can statistically describe to a better accuracy the
observed
results of incident `photons` than even QT can.

> > Can a photon describe a interference
> > pattern?
> > No.
>
> Yes.
I was reffering to the photon as a particle but..
If you think about it a particle cannot describe a
interference pattern can it? Try getting one from a stream of billiard
balls.
In fact the only way a photon can describe a interference pattern is
to pretend
it is a wave at times. In other words a photons particle properties
cannot describe interference . Its wave properties do.
Which means that in fact wave theory describes interference patterns.
Not photons or particles
Sean
www.gammarayburst.com

From: T.M. Sommers on
Henri Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:52:49 -0400, "T.M. Sommers" <tms(a)nj.net> wrote:
>>T.M. Sommers wrote:
>>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>>ADoppler DOES exist. George merely wants it to go quietly away so his
>>>>faith
>>>
>>>>be of the same order as the observed brightness variations.
>>>>My theory says that photons DO contract and extend due to this source
>>>>acceleration and these effects are roughly in phase with the macroscopic
>>>>bunching...... BUT the changes are reduced markedly by a factor 'K',
>>>>which may
>>>>be of the order 10^-5.
>>>
>>>That sounds like a fudge factor to me. What is the theoretical
>>>justification for K?
>>>
>>>>This appears logical because, whilst there appears to be
>>>>NO restriction on the way aligned photons might move wrt each other,
>>>>photons
>>>>are likely to resist 'compression ' and extension like an conventional
>>>>elastic
>>>>material.
>>>
>>>Are you saying that photons are not points but have extent and some
>>>internal structure, or are you just talking about wavelength?
>
> If photons were nothing but 'points' they wouldn't be photons...

What does that mean?

>>Are you going to answer these questions, Henri?
>
> No, they're too stupid...

No, they aren't stupid. They are the kind of questions anyone
should be able to answer about a proposed theory. I can only
conclude that you are unwilling to answer the questions because
the answers will reveal that your theory is plain wrong.

> The difference between a preacher and a used car salesman is that the latter at least has a product to sell.

Since you clearly have nothing to "sell", you must be a preacher.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- tms(a)nj.net -- AB2SB

From: Randy Poe on
On Sep 6, 7:13 pm, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:52:49 -0400, "T.M. Sommers" <t...(a)nj.net> wrote:
> >T.M. Sommers wrote:
> >> Are you saying that photons are not points but have extent and some
> >> internal structure, or are you just talking about wavelength?
>
> If photons were nothing but 'points' they wouldn't be photons...

This sounds like a theorem or postulate you've added to
standard physics. Can you point to something in the definition
of photon that says such a thing?

- Randy

From: Androcles on

"Randy Poe" <poespam-trap(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189191636.801964.202210(a)d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
: On Sep 6, 7:13 pm, HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote:
: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:52:49 -0400, "T.M. Sommers" <t...(a)nj.net> wrote:
: > >T.M. Sommers wrote:
: > >> Are you saying that photons are not points but have extent and some
: > >> internal structure, or are you just talking about wavelength?
: >
: > If photons were nothing but 'points' they wouldn't be photons...
:
: This sounds like a theorem or postulate you've added to
: standard physics. Can you point to something in the definition
: of photon that says such a thing?
:
: - Randy

Sure. How far part must the two slits of Young's double slit
experiment be so that the photon only goes through one slit?
determine that and you've determined the size of a photon.


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