GSM Encryption
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From: Mok-Kong Shen on 31 Dec 2009 09:26 Mok-Kong Shen wrote: > amzoti wrote: >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091230/ap_on_hi_te/eu_germany_phone_code > > From a link there to a web page of a firm Cellcrypt one reads the > following which I suppose is interesting, as it shows that all such > relatively high performance computing work can nowadays be done on > such a tiny device as a mobile phone: [snip] It is clear that one should in the case of mobile phones, as in the case of PC, carefully take security measures aginst manipulations, virus, trojans, electromagnetic emanations etc. etc. M. K. Shen
From: Ohm on 31 Dec 2009 14:36 >> Ah, yes, the UK, the country who have made a national obsession through >> security by obscurity. The country where a person was thrown in jail for >> fraud simply for claiming that someone had taken money out of his bank >> account. The country that passed a law making it compulsory to a) hand >> over your private encryption keys, and b) made it illegal to tell anyone >> that you had done so. > > I don't know but I should be surprised if there weren't countries worse > than UK in that matter (practically at least). > > M. K. Shen Sure there are countries much worse than the UK, all of them happen to be ruled by a dictatorship, which is where the UK is heading to. The UK just jailed their first person for refusing to reveal his encryption keys, this person was not a terrorist or a paedophile, but a mentally ill man with fear from police. UK Man Jailed For Refusing To Decrypt His Files: http://techdirt.com/articles/20091128/1803197100.shtml
From: Peter Fairbrother on 31 Dec 2009 16:03 Ohm wrote: >>> Ah, yes, the UK, the country who have made a national obsession through >>> security by obscurity. The country where a person was thrown in jail for >>> fraud simply for claiming that someone had taken money out of his bank >>> account. The country that passed a law making it compulsory to a) hand >>> over your private encryption keys, and b) made it illegal to tell anyone >>> that you had done so. >> >> I don't know but I should be surprised if there weren't countries worse >> than UK in that matter (practically at least). >> >> M. K. Shen > > Sure there are countries much worse than the UK, all of them happen to > be ruled > by a dictatorship, which is where the UK is heading to. > > The UK just jailed their first person for refusing to reveal his > encryption keys, > this person was not a terrorist or a paedophile, but a mentally ill man > with > fear from police. > > > UK Man Jailed For Refusing To Decrypt His Files: > > http://techdirt.com/articles/20091128/1803197100.shtml Apparently there have been two people convicted, but we don't know who the other one was. I don't know how long the law will last, it has been in force for a couple of years now (the Act was passed in 2000, but it didn't come into force for several years), but it may be repealed soonish - the next government (in May) might repeal it, though that's not at all certain, or it may go to the EU, where it will likely be struck down eventually - though that's a slow, painful and expensive process. -- Peter Fairbrother
From: Mok-Kong Shen on 31 Dec 2009 16:52 Ohm wrote: > Sure there are countries much worse than the UK, all of them happen to > be ruled > by a dictatorship, which is where the UK is heading to. Let's consider a hypothetical scenario: Suppose that the popular computer operating systems (including those for mobile phones) are all such that the default mode of data handling and communication is under strong encryption (the overhead should be tolerable with the current processor speeds). There would be a sea of encryption keys such that the officials would be totally oblivious of where to fish those keys that might be of some interest to them. But understandably there would be (presumably even has long been) strong pressures on the OS manufacturers from the side of the officials to prevent such a (horrible for them) state of affairs from ever happening. M. K. Shen
From: unruh on 1 Jan 2010 15:25
On 2010-01-01, Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam(a)arcor.de> wrote: > Ohm <Ohm(a)no.no> wrote: > >> Sure there are countries much worse than the UK, all of them happen to >> be ruled by a dictatorship, which is where the UK is heading to. > > Technically they already ARE - they're a monarchy, after all. It's just > that the Queen rarely ever uses her powers. ??? The queen has no legislative powers. The King tried to forcibly disolve parialment 400 years ago. He lost his head in the process. The monarch is not a dictator. > > Juergen Nieveler |