GTKADA Installation Questions
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From: Paul on 8 Oct 2009 02:56 Hi, I'm trying to work my way through the GTKADA tutorial examples and have some questions about the preferred installation of GNAT and GTKADA. I'm using Windows XP (sorry :o)), GNAT GPL 2009, GTKADA GPL 2.14.0 and GPS GPL 4.3.2. All of these from the Libre site. There was an interesting discussion back in September regarding runtime errors and the pango.aliases file which was useful. I had the same problem but while sorting that out I discovered that the GNAT installation and GTKADA installations have similar, but slightly different, directory structures. This resulted in me having two different copies of the pango.aliases file. Naturally I updated the wrong file and was rewarded by exactly the same error! Perhaps there is a PATH problem I need to fix. I also noticed that some of the duplicated files have different date/time stamps which is disturbing. So my question is should I be installing GTKADA "on top" of GNAT so that the duplicated directories overlap? The installation process doesn't imply that this is a useful thing to do. Rgds Paul --
From: rickduley on 9 Oct 2009 03:42 Hi Paul Go to http://adasafehouse.webs.com/GtkAda.html and follow the link 'Solutions' to GettingGtkAdaGoing.pdf Working in XP, I would also join the GNAT Academic Program and get their executables. With the GPS IDE and the GAP Executables and GettingGtkAdaGoing.pdf your problems should disappear. -------------------------------------------- Rick Duley North Perth, Western Australia http://rickduley.webs.com .-_|\ / \ perth *_.-._/ v aussie : 0409 106 049 o'seas : +61 409 106 049 -------------------------------------------- "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." (C.A.R Hoare)
From: Paul on 9 Oct 2009 23:15 rickduley wrote: > Hi Paul > > Go to http://adasafehouse.webs.com/GtkAda.html and follow the link > 'Solutions' to GettingGtkAdaGoing.pdf > Working in XP, I would also join the GNAT Academic Program and get > their executables. With the GPS IDE and the GAP Executables and > GettingGtkAdaGoing.pdf your problems should disappear. > -------------------------------------------- > Rick Duley > North Perth, > Western Australia > http://rickduley.webs.com > .-_|\ > / \ > perth *_.-._/ > v > aussie : 0409 106 049 > o'seas : +61 409 106 049 > -------------------------------------------- > "There are two ways of constructing a > software design: One way is to make it so > simple that there are obviously no > deficiencies, and the other way is to make > it so complicated that there are no obvious > deficiencies. > > The first method is far more difficult." > (C.A.R Hoare) Thanks Rick, I'll do that. I'm puzzled why this site didn't come in a Google search for GTKADA or rather I should say I didn't see it in the first few pages returned. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Cheers Paul .-_|\ / \ \_.-._* Canberra v (a minor plagiarism of your map above :o) ) --
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov on 10 Oct 2009 03:58 On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:56:30 GMT, Paul wrote: > So my question is should I be installing GTKADA "on top" of GNAT so > that the duplicated directories overlap? The installation process > doesn't imply that this is a useful thing to do. Directories are duplicated intentionally. On Windows GNAT GPS comes with a version of GtkAda + Gtk it needs to work. GtkAda is a distribution of its own, with some version of Gtk, not necessarily same. You can also install a newer version of Gtk (Glib, Pango etc) from some third source. If you also installed GIMP that would be a fourth Gtk on your computer. It is up to you to make them co-existing. Usually I overwrite GtkAda's lib with newer versions (2.14.6 or so) and put GIMP's bin before GNAT and GtkAda in the PATH. P.S. I would not care about tutorial examples, because in my view they aren't much useful. I would rather suggest: 1. In order to understand how Gtk works: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable 2. For advanced, swampy, nasty Gtk issues: http://scentric.net/tutorial/treeview-tutorial.html http://www.gnome.org/~federico/misc/gtk-drawing-model/index.html 3. Last, but not least, the excellent GtkAda reference manual http://www.adacore.com/wp-content/files/auto_update/gtkada-docs/gtkada_rm/gtkada_rm/index.html P.P.S. It would be nice if somebody took care of packaging GtkAda under Windows, because this is an issue faced by every new user of GtkAda. AdaCore seems to update GtkAda once per year, which is a too slow pace compared with the heartbeat of Gtk. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
From: Paul on 11 Oct 2009 03:35 Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:56:30 GMT, Paul wrote: > > > So my question is should I be installing GTKADA "on top" of GNAT so > > that the duplicated directories overlap? The installation process > > doesn't imply that this is a useful thing to do. > > Directories are duplicated intentionally. On Windows GNAT GPS comes > with a version of GtkAda + Gtk it needs to work. GtkAda is a > distribution of its own, with some version of Gtk, not necessarily > same. You can also install a newer version of Gtk (Glib, Pango etc) > from some third source. If you also installed GIMP that would be a > fourth Gtk on your computer. > > It is up to you to make them co-existing. Usually I overwrite > GtkAda's lib with newer versions (2.14.6 or so) and put GIMP's bin > before GNAT and GtkAda in the PATH. > > P.S. I would not care about tutorial examples, because in my view they > aren't much useful. > > I would rather suggest: > > 1. In order to understand how Gtk works: > > http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable > > 2. For advanced, swampy, nasty Gtk issues: > > http://scentric.net/tutorial/treeview-tutorial.html > http://www.gnome.org/~federico/misc/gtk-drawing-model/index.html > > 3. Last, but not least, the excellent GtkAda reference manual > > http://www.adacore.com/wp-content/files/auto_update/gtkada-docs/gtkada > _rm/gtkada_rm/index.html > > P.P.S. It would be nice if somebody took care of packaging GtkAda > under Windows, because this is an issue faced by every new user of > GtkAda. AdaCore seems to update GtkAda once per year, which is a too > slow pace compared with the heartbeat of Gtk. Thanks Dmitry Rgds Paul --
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