From: Mike on
I'm searching for opinions: What combination of packages work best for developing
apps complete with GUI on Windows systems?

I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess I'm ready to creat
apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ .

Thanks,

Mike


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From: Tim Bradshaw on
On 2010-05-20 11:48:12 +0100, Mike said:

> I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess
> I'm ready to creat
> apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ .

You probably mean "free packages", but LispWorks is wonderful for this
(or used to be a few years ago, and I suspect is better now). There is
a limited free version which would I think be more than adequate for
experimentation, but not for distributing finished products.

I use to make (small) applications which ran on two or three platforms
(Windows, Linux, Solaris) with no conditionalised code in LW. They
have OS X support too now.

From: fortunatus on
I was drawn into Scheme (it's "a Lisp" not Common Lisp...) besically
because PLT Scheme has a great GUI toolset - great in that it is easy
to use; I'm no GUI expert but I think it would be complicated to get
super-sophisticated. Super-sophisticated GUI is always complicated,
though.

I wish for a (free,free) Common Lisp library as easy to use as the PLT
GUI library... hopefully someone will point one out to us...
From: Kenneth Tilton on
fortunatus wrote:
> I was drawn into Scheme (it's "a Lisp" not Common Lisp...) besically
> because PLT Scheme has a great GUI toolset - great in that it is easy
> to use; I'm no GUI expert but I think it would be complicated to get
> super-sophisticated. Super-sophisticated GUI is always complicated,
> though.

Very slowly folks are discovering that that complexity can be managed
automatically with sufficiently clever inter-widget auto-linkage:
OpenLaszlo, Adobe Adam/Eve, qooxdoo, and the Lisp Cells-Gtk and Celtk. I
am just starting to flesh out a web version for cells called qooxlisp,
because who wants to program anything other than the web these days? And
I believe there are or soon will be or can be now ways to take a nice
web app and convert it to a WebKit-based desktop app if that really matters.

>
> I wish for a (free,free) Common Lisp library as easy to use as the PLT
> GUI library... hopefully someone will point one out to us...

Watch this space: http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/

hk

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From: Peter Herth on
Mike schrieb:
> I'm searching for opinions: What combination of packages work best for developing
> apps complete with GUI on Windows systems?
>
> I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess I'm ready to creat
> apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ .
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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You should have a look at LTk:

http://www.peter-herth.de/ltk/

Peter