From: Mike on 20 May 2010 06:48 I'm searching for opinions: What combination of packages work best for developing apps complete with GUI on Windows systems? I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess I'm ready to creat apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ . Thanks, Mike --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Tim Bradshaw on 20 May 2010 07:42 On 2010-05-20 11:48:12 +0100, Mike said: > I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess > I'm ready to creat > apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ . You probably mean "free packages", but LispWorks is wonderful for this (or used to be a few years ago, and I suspect is better now). There is a limited free version which would I think be more than adequate for experimentation, but not for distributing finished products. I use to make (small) applications which ran on two or three platforms (Windows, Linux, Solaris) with no conditionalised code in LW. They have OS X support too now.
From: fortunatus on 20 May 2010 10:45 I was drawn into Scheme (it's "a Lisp" not Common Lisp...) besically because PLT Scheme has a great GUI toolset - great in that it is easy to use; I'm no GUI expert but I think it would be complicated to get super-sophisticated. Super-sophisticated GUI is always complicated, though. I wish for a (free,free) Common Lisp library as easy to use as the PLT GUI library... hopefully someone will point one out to us...
From: Kenneth Tilton on 20 May 2010 11:16 fortunatus wrote: > I was drawn into Scheme (it's "a Lisp" not Common Lisp...) besically > because PLT Scheme has a great GUI toolset - great in that it is easy > to use; I'm no GUI expert but I think it would be complicated to get > super-sophisticated. Super-sophisticated GUI is always complicated, > though. Very slowly folks are discovering that that complexity can be managed automatically with sufficiently clever inter-widget auto-linkage: OpenLaszlo, Adobe Adam/Eve, qooxdoo, and the Lisp Cells-Gtk and Celtk. I am just starting to flesh out a web version for cells called qooxlisp, because who wants to program anything other than the web these days? And I believe there are or soon will be or can be now ways to take a nice web app and convert it to a WebKit-based desktop app if that really matters. > > I wish for a (free,free) Common Lisp library as easy to use as the PLT > GUI library... hopefully someone will point one out to us... Watch this space: http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/ hk -- http://www.stuckonalgebra.com "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." Macworld
From: Peter Herth on 20 May 2010 14:48
Mike schrieb: > I'm searching for opinions: What combination of packages work best for developing > apps complete with GUI on Windows systems? > > I've had great luck catching up with LISP using Lispbox, but I guess I'm ready to creat > apps that run and look as sophisticated as those I create in VB or C++ . > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net --- You should have a look at LTk: http://www.peter-herth.de/ltk/ Peter |