From: John Larkin on 3 Mar 2010 15:21 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:36:42 -0800, dplatt(a)radagast.org (Dave Platt) wrote: >In article <2ktso5pli2bs2n0kvetfnp4psps4ib9qv0(a)4ax.com>, >John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>Is there such a thing as a spherical magnetic field? Where would all >>the vectors point? > >It could be done with isolated magnetic monopoles, I suppose. >Unfortunately, they seem to be out of stock at all of the popular >suppliers, and I have my doubt whether the brokors who post at >DigElementaryParticles.com can actually deliver. > >Without the use of monopoles, I suspect that you'll run into the same >problem which prevents truely isotropic antennas from ever being >built... there's no way to construct the resulting field without >having a discontinuity in it somewhere. You can build an isotropic loudspeaker, but unfortunately space doesn't support EM pressure waves. You can make a spherical electric field, and maybe spherical gravity waves. Suppose you put a small conductive sphere inside a bigger conductive sphere. If there were an AC voltage between them, you'd have current flowing from the inner to the outer with perfect symmetry. Would that induce a corresponding magnetic field inside? I suppose not... everything would cancel. And besides, there's no way to apply the voltage to the inner sphere without breaking the symmetry. I suppose I ought to get back to work. Trying to get a Spartan6 to configure from serial flash, no luck so far. John
From: The Great Attractor on 3 Mar 2010 22:52 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:38:30 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 03/03/2010 07:34, Ken Weston wrote: >> What type of coil geometry would be required to create (or best >> approximate) a contained, 1 metre diameter, spherical EM field of >> several millgauss? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> >> Ken Weston > >Well, choose a spherical container made of iron or mu-metal. >Because otherwise magnetic fields propagate to infinity >If you want uniformity, that is an additional impossibility. I am sure that magnetic and electromagnetic planetoids not orbiting any nearby star would have a fairly spherical flux/field propagation. It would have to be pretty far away though.
From: Robert Baer on 4 Mar 2010 03:29 Ken Weston wrote: > What type of coil geometry would be required to create (or best > approximate) a contained, 1 metre diameter, spherical EM field of > several millgauss? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Ken Weston Is this the start of creating a (spherical) force field, similar to that alluded to in some SF stories? In short, how close are we to doing anything like that NOW?
From: Robert Baer on 4 Mar 2010 03:30 John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:34:29 GMT, kenweston(a)radcliffs.com (Ken Weston) > wrote: > >> What type of coil geometry would be required to create (or best >> approximate) a contained, 1 metre diameter, spherical EM field of >> several millgauss? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> >> Ken Weston > > Is there such a thing as a spherical magnetic field? Where would all > the vectors point? > > John > The question is: is it an INNIE or an OUTIE?
From: whit3rd on 4 Mar 2010 14:04 On Mar 4, 12:29 am, Robert Baer <robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote: > Is this the start of creating a (spherical) force field, similar to > that alluded to in some SF stories? > In short, how close are we to doing anything like that NOW? It's a common commercial item. Called a 'ball bearing', sphericity is available in high accuracy, forces on the exterior can be quite high without causing any distortion. Of course, in SF stories, sometimes there's a force field that has lots of other properties than 'spherical'. Like, the field is bigger than the generator, it turns ON and OFF easily... stuff like that.
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