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From: Clifford J. Nelson on 23 Jun 2010 09:43 > Han > > I intend defining the thickened curve by saying that > it is within a certain > distance from a polygonal line which is my centre > curve. I just was not sure > what to call it. > > Pier > > "Han de Bruijn" <umumenu(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:870d0b86-9391-416c-aa01-f7efb34128fa(a)y4g2000yqy.g > ooglegroups.com... > On Jun 22, 2:52 pm, "Pier Nardin" <pi...(a)ramm.co.za> > wrote: > > Does anyone know what the mathematical name for a > 2D curve with a certain > > thickness is. i.e. a ribbon. > > > > Pier > > Doubt it. Ideal mathematical curves have NO > thickness. And IF, how to > _define_ thickness then, eventually ? What you _can_ > do is, given the > definition of an _ideal_ curve say [ x = f(t) , y = > g(t) ] , define a > thickened curve (known technique); given a thickened > curve, determine > its thickness (by contouring & divide area by half > length of contour) > There's also a technique named thinning. And more. > What do you want? > > Han de Bruijn > > People think of a curve as a set of points. And from Synergetics: 527.711 People think of a point as the most primitive thing with which to initiate geometrical conceptioning. A point is a microevent of minutiae too meager, they say, to be dignified with dimensionality: Ergo, they assume a point to be only an "imaginary fix." But speaking in the experiential language of science, whatever is optically point-to-able is a substance, and every substance has insideness and outsideness -- ergo, is systemic: Ergo, all point-to-ables can never be less than the minimum system: the tetrahedron. Points always amplify optically to be identifiable as systemic polyhedra. Likewise, a point in two dimensions is a polygon and can not be less than a triangle. You could graph a curve with thickness using Synergetics coordinates described at: Partial Mathematica Notebook saved as HTML at http://mysite.verizon.net/cjnelson9/index.htm SynergeticsAppTen.nb (540.1 KB) - Mathematica Notebook at http://library.wolfram.com/infocenter/MathSource/600/ Cliff Nelson
From: Han de Bruijn on 24 Jun 2010 02:54 On Jun 23, 7:43 pm, "Clifford J. Nelson" <cjnels...(a)verizon.net> wrote: [ .. snip things done .. ] > People think of a curve as a set of points. When seen as an IMAGE, a curve is a continuous comb of delta functions When turning these delta functions into kinda bell shaped curves, with spread D, the curve becomes visible, and it has a thickness defined as D. See the above posting of mine. [ .. snip Synergetics .. ] Han de Bruijn
From: OwlHoot on 24 Jun 2010 08:44 On 22 June, 13:52, "Pier Nardin" <pi...(a)ramm.co.za> wrote: > > Does anyone know what the mathematical name for a 2D curve with a certain > thickness is. i.e. a ribbon. I reckon you could reasonably call it a smooth foliation of line segments. In other words, think of it as a sequence of line segments, like a picket fence, whose midpoints lie along the curve. But, as someone else pointed out, if writing a paper you should clearly define what you mean by a phrase like that, as it isn't particularly standard and could be interpreted in various ways. Cheers John Ramsden
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