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From: Grzegorz on 21 Apr 2006 02:03 mayayana wrote: > > Alf's response consisted of a 1-line wisecrack > and a 4-line cranky complaint about posting format. > I was thinking it was *that* sort of thing that doesn't > often show up here. The "1-line wisecrack" pinpointed an obvious fact, the OP seemed to be missing, that if you can execute your code on a machine you can do almost everything and that may include installation of some of application's components. It's another story that any solution that does not require that is much better. "4-line cranky complaint about posting format" is actually his signature. It seems to some it can be as annoying as top posting can be for others, but I quess it's a purpose of it. -- 677265676F727940346E6575726F6E732E636F6D
From: J French on 21 Apr 2006 02:49 On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:03:15 +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Grzegorz_Wr=F3bel?= </dev/null(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote: >mayayana wrote: >> >> Alf's response consisted of a 1-line wisecrack >> and a 4-line cranky complaint about posting format. >> I was thinking it was *that* sort of thing that doesn't >> often show up here. >The "1-line wisecrack" pinpointed an obvious fact, the OP seemed to be missing, that if you can execute your code on a machine you can do almost everything and that may include installation of some of application's components. It's another story that any solution that does not require that is much better. >"4-line cranky complaint about posting format" is actually his signature. It seems to some it can be as annoying as top posting can be for others, but I quess it's a purpose of it. I think I can see what might be going on, 'Learner' is running his App off a network drive (or possibly CD ROM) The local system is completely locked down, possibly 'virtual', possibly 'unknown', possibly 'self restoring'. I think Mayana's Windows snooping solution is the best idea. Here is a simple Snooper that I use for determining whether something is 'painted' or a control ( I don't have Firefox so I'm not sure whether it is easy to interrogate) :- Option Explicit ' Add one Timer Private Type POINTAPI X As Long Y As Long End Type Private Declare Function GetCursorPos _ Lib "user32" _ (lpPoint As POINTAPI) As Long Private Declare Function WindowFromPoint _ Lib "user32" _ (ByVal xPoint As Long, _ ByVal yPoint As Long) As Long Private Declare Function GetClassName _ Lib "user32" _ Alias "GetClassNameA" _ (ByVal hwnd As Long, _ ByVal lpClassName As String, _ ByVal nMaxCount As Long) As Long Private Declare Function SendMessage _ Lib "user32" Alias "SendMessageA" _ (ByVal hwnd As Long, _ ByVal wMsg As Long, _ ByVal wParam As Long, _ lParam As Any) As Long Private Const WM_GETTEXT = &HD Private Sub Form_Load() Timer1.Enabled = True Timer1.Interval = 500 End Sub Private Function WindowInf() As String Dim Hnd As Long, Buff$, Q& Dim PT As POINTAPI GetCursorPos PT Hnd = WindowFromPoint(PT.X, PT.Y) WindowInf = Str$(Hnd) ' --- Buff$ = Space$(255) Q& = GetClassName(Hnd, Buff$, Len(Buff$)) WindowInf = WindowInf + ":" + Left$(Buff$, Q) ' --- Q& = SendMessage(Hnd, WM_GETTEXT, Len(Buff$), ByVal Buff$) WindowInf = WindowInf + ":" + Left$(Buff$, Q) Text1.Text = Left$(Buff$, 10) End Function Private Sub Timer1_Timer() Me.Caption = WindowInf End Sub
From: Learner on 21 Apr 2006 03:48 "mayayana" <mayayanaXX1a(a)mindXXspring.com> wrote in message news:LLV1g.9481$i41.7278(a)newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> And to you, "Learner"... with that attitude you're going to have >> a hard time getting help in this NG. > > Interesting that you saw it that way. I don't mean to > start an argument, and of course "Learner" didn't > need to be rude, but he asked a simple question > and got two smug, dismissive answers that were not > particularly relevant, and that implied he didn't know > what he was talking about but might succeed if he's > "willing to learn". THANK YOU. Someone who can see what's really going on. :)
From: Grzegorz on 21 Apr 2006 04:51 J French wrote: > I think I can see what might be going on, 'Learner' is running his App > off a network drive (or possibly CD ROM) > > The local system is completely locked down, possibly 'virtual', > possibly 'unknown', possibly 'self restoring'. > > I think Mayana's Windows snooping solution is the best idea. > Here is a simple Snooper that I use for determining whether something > is 'painted' or a control ( I don't have Firefox so I'm not sure > whether it is easy to interrogate) :- I have Firefox among other browser installed and a quick look in Spy++ reveals that the problem here is that practically all Firefox's "controls" are titless "MozillaWindowClass" and "MozillaDropShadowWindowClass" top-level windows. This mess is most likely the result of portability issues ad the fact that this browser has not been designed for a particular platform. Even if you isolate the proper window for once by monitoring window messages it will be hard to build a simple algorithm that finds this specific window. -- 677265676F727940346E6575726F6E732E636F6D
From: J French on 21 Apr 2006 05:11
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:51:04 +0200, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Grzegorz_Wr=F3bel?= </dev/null(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote: >J French wrote: > > I think I can see what might be going on, 'Learner' is running his App >> off a network drive (or possibly CD ROM) >> >> The local system is completely locked down, possibly 'virtual', >> possibly 'unknown', possibly 'self restoring'. >> >> I think Mayana's Windows snooping solution is the best idea. >> Here is a simple Snooper that I use for determining whether something >> is 'painted' or a control ( I don't have Firefox so I'm not sure >> whether it is easy to interrogate) :- >I have Firefox among other browser installed and a quick look in Spy++ > reveals that the problem here is that practically all Firefox's "controls" >are titless "MozillaWindowClass" and "MozillaDropShadowWindowClass" >top-level windows. This mess is most likely the result of portability issues >ad the fact that this browser has not been designed for a particular platform. >Even if you isolate the proper window for once by monitoring window >messages it will be hard to build a simple algorithm that finds this specific window. Hmm ... Maybe some other info on the Window GetWindowContextHelpId GetClassName - we've tried that GetWindowLong - and look at GWL_STYLE and GWL_EXSTYLE There must be something (or some combination of things) that are unique about that Window |