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From: bert on 26 Apr 2010 12:27 On Apr 26, 11:36 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Innews:hr496n01sj(a)news3.newsguy.com, > > Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:17:15 -0600, m II wrote: > > by the state. The "repo man" that takes your car or your house > > is simply a thief without the backing of the state. > > The repo man is an agent of the entity to whom you promised > something in return for what you received. You agreed that if you > broke your promise, he will have the right, with the backing of the > state, to take what he gave you. The fact that he then exercises > that right doesn't mean that the repo man is an agent of the state. > It only means that the existence of state backing of the deal you > made is what paved the way for the deal to be made in the first > place. To Ya All Reality is Mafia owns the USA. Statue of Liberty melted down for its copper,and given to China as interest on the trillions we owe them. To late to fight back Godfather has the tanks. TreBert
From: Michael Coburn on 26 Apr 2010 14:13 On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:27:21 -0700, bert wrote: > On Apr 26, 11:36 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Innews:hr496n01sj(a)news3.newsguy.com, >> >> Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:17:15 -0600, m II wrote: by the state. The >> > "repo man" that takes your car or your house is simply a thief >> > without the backing of the state. >> >> The repo man is an agent of the entity to whom you promised something >> in return for what you received. You agreed that if you broke your >> promise, he will have the right, with the backing of the state, to take >> what he gave you. The fact that he then exercises that right doesn't >> mean that the repo man is an agent of the state. It only means that the >> existence of state backing of the deal you made is what paved the way >> for the deal to be made in the first place. > > To Ya All Reality is Mafia owns the USA. Statue of Liberty melted down > for its copper,and given to China as interest on the trillions we owe > them. To late to fight back Godfather has the tanks. TreBert I wonder is it is possible for you to learn. Lets see if it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartalism When the Chinese demand payment for their T-Bills the US government will create dollars in their checking accounts in the US banking system. That is all that happens. What they do with the money is up to them. If, at the same time, the US government crates and equal amount of money and spends it on roads and bridges then the value of the Chinese bank accounts will diminish. If Americans are compelled to pay their taxes in dollars and the Chinese have all the dollars then Americans must work for the Chinese in order to pay their taxes. What part of this do you not comprehend. Will the Chinese nuke us if we create more money and inject it into our domestic economy???? -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
From: knews4u2chew on 26 Apr 2010 14:55 On Apr 26, 7:49 am, Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:17:15 -0600, m II wrote: > > P. Maffia wrote: > > >> If Kennedy wanted to do away with the Federal Reserve, all he had to do > >> was have the Congress revoke the US law that created it. He didn't have > >> to buy anything. And his assassination had absolutely nothing to do > >> with whether or not he was for or against the Fed. > > > A clause was put in the original transfer of the money making rights > > that the US government could buy back the rights to issue and control > > the money flow at any time. The stated sum was one billion dollars. > > The government makes he laws and has all the guns and courtrooms it takes > to enforce those laws. The boys in the black robes have law books and > pens, and the bankers have only pens. The Banksters control the hands holding the pens. They are ruthless. http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/PDF/BankingSystem.pdf Always have been. What will change it? Local "currencies." >I'm gonna put my money on the > Congress and the executive. > They were bought and paid for. Have been for before our time. This was written over one hundred years ago. http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/PDF/BankingSystem.pdf > > That was huge amount at the time of the deal. Today, it's peanuts and > > the money lenders stand to lose trillions in interest income should the > > situation revert to it's former state. > It not going to change as long as we use their "chit." It's theirs and they can do what suits their purpose. > Yes... It is peanuts enough to be totally irrelevant, which it is. > Even more trivial to the elite who actually control the "chit." If "they" really wanted to change it they would. They don't listen to the "People." The people are the government. The people have lost and given up their government. The rats are running the ship as long as they control the presses. They will punish anyone who has any power to try to change the "fiat" system by removing them or their power. > > We are rapidly heading into a feudal system, with a debt interest load > > on most people instead of the sharecropping of antiquity. It's all an illusion. The "chit" can buy "this" much. I gave a guy a "piece of paper" to do two hours weeding of my yard. He turned down a cup of coffee. >Turning over > > half your income is no different than turning over half your crops. > True. And they claim the "everything you "make" is "income." Another lie. You used their "chit." They control it. It has a serial number. But if you hold on to it, it doesn't "grow." So they say "invest" it in one of their "games." Ad infinitum. > > I note by your rather childish name calling that you do not do your > > homework before speaking out. > > I did MY homework long ago and up until the late 90's I too was still > captured by the ridiculous notion that fiat money had some sort of > intrinsic value; some value other then the force of the state that issues > it. Right. >The Fed is a transitioning edifice between gold and true fiat. The > lie of intrinsic value is finally being recognized for the lie it has > always been. Even when gold was used for a unit of account, _*MONEY*_ > was what the sovereign would accept as legal tender of tax obligations. > No gold, then you lose your chickens or your home, or you may go to > debtor's prison. The banks operate only under a charter granted by the > state. The "repo man" that takes your car or your house is simply a > thief without the backing of the state. So _ALL_ debt collection is a > function of the sovereign. > They have backing of "law" made and enforced by them. > -- > "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" --http://GreaterVoice.org/60 Right.
From: Michael Coburn on 26 Apr 2010 15:15
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:55:44 -0700, knews4u2chew wrote: > On Apr 26, 7:49 am, Michael Coburn <mik...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:17:15 -0600, m II wrote: >> > P. Maffia wrote: >> >> >> If Kennedy wanted to do away with the Federal Reserve, all he had to >> >> do was have the Congress revoke the US law that created it. He >> >> didn't have to buy anything. And his assassination had absolutely >> >> nothing to do with whether or not he was for or against the Fed. >> >> > A clause was put in the original transfer of the money making rights >> > that the US government could buy back the rights to issue and control >> > the money flow at any time. The stated sum was one billion dollars. >> >> The government makes he laws and has all the guns and courtrooms it >> takes to enforce those laws. The boys in the black robes have law >> books and pens, and the bankers have only pens. > > The Banksters control the hands holding the pens. They are ruthless. > http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/PDF/BankingSystem.pdf Always have > been. > What will change it? > Local "currencies." Nice dodge... If the state controls the banks (see regulation) then there is no real problem so long as the state is a representative republic. >>I'm gonna put my money on the >> Congress and the executive. >> > They were bought and paid for. > Have been for before our time. > This was written over one hundred years ago. > http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/PDF/BankingSystem.pdf That was then and this is now. The rightarded believe in nuking the government and letting each community run its own affairs. The result is called feudalism. It is really quite stupid in that we EVOLVED from that to where we are. >> > That was huge amount at the time of the deal. Today, it's peanuts and >> > the money lenders stand to lose trillions in interest income should >> > the situation revert to it's former state. >> > It not going to change as long as we use their "chit." It's theirs and > they can do what suits their purpose. No... If we have a representative government it is _OUR_ chit. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< remaining stupidity deleted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60 |