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From: Luis Lavena on 3 Jan 2008 15:28 This was asked, and asked, and asked too many times, so here we go. Since I don't want to hold anyone to try it, I'll like to share some progress I've made in this area. I'll like to make a few points clear before: 1) VC6 vs. VC8 vs. MinGW have no room in this discussion. I took the MinGW path since was the only one that could be bootstrapped from scratch. 2) This is a work in progress. Even that I'm 110% busy with work, interest on this seems it deserve be shared, no mater how "alpha" the whole process is. 3) Don't blame me if isn't work or your Rails application don't work either. Isn't complete!. Instead: grab the code, hack it and send me your patches. 4) Make code talk for you. I've heard this too many times on other projects, so please move from simple comments to share your ruby-fu. 5) Part of this project is bring a new build procedure to One-Click Installer, if we succeed, everybody will enjoy the benefits. For those who aren't aware, I'm the new maintainer of OCI (One-Click Ruby Installer for Windows). Curt give me the kingdom keys a few months back and the latest release was completely build in my office computer. OCI, in its current state is a 'Package of Ruby Tools and libraries', not a Installer. There are plans to change that. So, now the code: http://code.mmediasys.com/installer3/latest.zip This is a pure-ruby solution that download and setup a mingw+msys environment to get Ruby build. It uses some rake recipes to download all the needed packages At this time Ruby 1.8.6 p111 is targeted, but targeting Ruby 1.9 will no have mayor issues. Dependencies are not compiled, just downloaded for the time being. Tested all the scenarios (pre-built and compile from source) and there are issues with them which I reported previously. To bootstrap and use this project, you need: - Ruby 1.8.5 or greater - Rake 0.7.3 or greater - Tar [1] and Unzip [2] binary packages from GnuWin32 If someone can provide me a way to unpack 4MB zip, tgz and tar.bz2 files without external dependencies (just ruby) -- you're welcome. The rake tasks available: rake check # Run tests for the interpreter in the sandbox. rake clean # Remove any temporary products. rake clobber # Remove any generated file. rake compile # Compile the interpreter. rake configure # Run the configure process for the interpreter. rake download # Download all components. rake extract # Extract all downloaded components. rake install # Install the interpreter in the sandbox. rake prepare # Prepare the freshly extracted components. clean will remove the sandbox and clobber will remove all the downloaded files. The step sequence is: download, extract, prepare, configure, compile, install, check you will find the installed ruby in sandbox/ruby_mingw You need to install before check, so the check process use the sandbox interpreter instead of the one you're using to build it. check will fail in the readline tests, since I cannot get them working properly. I suggest to those who are interested, help me get this working. ==== Checkout code: I'm using Bazaar (bzr) as distributed version control software: http://www.bazaar-vcs.org/ bzr branch http://code.mmediasys.com/installer3/dev my-local-branch ==== [1] This ships inside libarchive-2.4.0 named as 'bsdtar.exe' http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libarchive.htm [2] http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/unzip.htm -- Luis Lavena Multimedia systems - A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. Douglas Adams
From: Bill Kelly on 3 Jan 2008 15:45 From: "Luis Lavena" <luislavena(a)gmail.com> > > 1) VC6 vs. VC8 vs. MinGW have no room in this discussion. I took the > MinGW path since was the only one that could be bootstrapped from > scratch. Just to clarify... What does "bootstrapped from scratch" mean in this context? Regards, Bill
From: James Tucker on 3 Jan 2008 15:57 On 3 Jan 2008, at 16:45, Bill Kelly wrote: > > From: "Luis Lavena" <luislavena(a)gmail.com> >> >> 1) VC6 vs. VC8 vs. MinGW have no room in this discussion. I took the >> MinGW path since was the only one that could be bootstrapped from >> scratch. > > Just to clarify... What does "bootstrapped from scratch" mean > in this context? As low as he (we) can go. At the moment, it's in ruby (as per the code presented and requirements), but some of my ideas had most of the stack from a .cmd file - although that may be excessive. js or .vb via WSH anyone? > > > > Regards, > > Bill > > >
From: Luis Lavena on 3 Jan 2008 15:58 On Jan 3, 6:45 pm, Bill Kelly <bi...(a)cts.com> wrote: > From: "Luis Lavena" <luislav...(a)gmail.com> > > > > > 1) VC6 vs. VC8 vs. MinGW have no room in this discussion. I took the > > MinGW path since was the only one that could be bootstrapped from > > scratch. > > Just to clarify... What does "bootstrapped from scratch" mean > in this context? > Don't know if that is the right terminology (since I'm not a native english speaker) but this means: - Grab MinGW+MSYS - Compile Ruby - Package it - Repeat! Be usable so you can repeat the whole process with the new version of the interpreter you just compiled :-) So future version use the new one, is like what Rubinius is doing: bootstrapping itself using a previous ruby installation. Hope this clarify things a bit. -- Luis Lavena
From: Luis Lavena on 3 Jan 2008 16:05 On Jan 3, 6:57 pm, James Tucker <jftuc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3 Jan 2008, at 16:45, Bill Kelly wrote: > > > From: "Luis Lavena" <luislav...(a)gmail.com> > > >> 1) VC6 vs. VC8 vs. MinGW have no room in this discussion. I took the > >> MinGW path since was the only one that could be bootstrapped from > >> scratch. > > > Just to clarify... What does "bootstrapped from scratch" mean > > in this context? > > As low as he (we) can go. At the moment, it's in ruby (as per the code > presented and requirements), but some of my ideas had most of the > stack from a .cmd file - although that may be excessive. > > js or .vb via WSH anyone? > The idea is Bootstrap Ruby with Ruby, like Rubinius guys are doing. I must admit that have extensive batch files that I use to bootstrap ruby with VC6 at office, but maintain .CMD and workaround its limitations don't worth the effort. Also, we are using Ruby for the fun of it, right? ;-) -- Luis Lavena
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