From: philo on
JD wrote:
> philo wrote:
>> I've got a GA-K8N Pro-sli on the workbench
>>
>> It typically takes 8 - 12 tries to get it to boot up..
>> but once booted the machine runs fine.
>>
>> I've tried everything I can think up...
>> reflashed the bios with a newer one.
>>
>> Tried a different power supply / ram / video card etc
>>
>> even changed the cmos battery
>>
>>
>> Since the machine starts too unreliably I'm going to pitch the mobo
>> into the recycle bin...
>>
>>
>> unless someone here has an idea I've missed
>
>
> It could be in the motherboard or in the connections or it could be that
> you have a faulty power supply.
>
> Make sure all the connections - right up to the wall power socket - are
> very
> firmly in place. First shut down the box and then pull each connector
> out and push
> it back firmly into place. Restart.
>
> Good luck!


already tried that
From: philo on
Paul wrote:
> philo wrote:
>> I've got a GA-K8N Pro-sli on the workbench
>>
>> It typically takes 8 - 12 tries to get it to boot up..
>> but once booted the machine runs fine.
>>
>> I've tried everything I can think up...
>> reflashed the bios with a newer one.
>>
>> Tried a different power supply / ram / video card etc
>>
>> even changed the cmos battery
>>
>>
>> Since the machine starts too unreliably I'm going to pitch the mobo
>> into the recycle bin...
>>
>>
>> unless someone here has an idea I've missed
>
> It has Dual BIOS, so you'd probably have to reflash it twice,
> if you wanted to be absolutely certain both BIOS choices were
> running the same version. As far as I know, the Gigabyte scheme
> uses one boot block and two main BIOS code blocks, so there
> is only one boot block to run the whole thing. Meaning, if
> the boot block is damaged, then the dual BIOS won't work.
>

Well there may be something there...
as to access the recovery BIOS the prompt is to hit F9

I tried that prior to re-flashing the BIOS but hitting F9 did nothing...

I suppose that since the board is heading for the recycle bin anyway...
I might as well try re-flashing the BIOS again

> Check that the settings have returned to defaults.
> Load setup defaults or whatever. Make sure the processor
> used, is listed in the support chart.
>
> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?ProductID=1883#anchor_os


Yep set it back to defaults
>
>
> There were a few AMD processors, that suffered from
> electromigration due to overclocking. If you suspect
> that is the case (user abuse), you can try running the processor
> below stock speed, and see if that helps.
>

Was not over-clocked but I might as well try under clocking it


> You can check the reviews on Newegg, and see if there
> is a common theme.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=13-128-301&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=100&SelectedRating=-1&Page=1
>
>
> It is possible the PCI Express slots are sensitive to static.
> Carefully set the paddle card, to x8/x8 mode, on the
> off chance that the video will work better if only
> half the bus is being used. Use antistatic precautions,
> like a wrist strap, while changing the paddlecard, just
> in case.
>

Pulled all the PCIe cards
and was testing it with a PCI video card only

> It is kinda amazing, that a single chip Nvidia chipset solution,
> can run without a cooling fan.
>
> Your problem could be occurring while the boot block is doing
> its thing, so in fact the problem could be entirely at stock
> speeds. I don't know whether a board like that, does a double
> restart to apply user settings or not. If it does do something
> like that, there might not be much in fact that you can do with
> the BIOS, to influence the problem.
>
> Drop to one stick of RAM and see if that helps.
>
> Paul

Yep...even tried that too


thanks for the ideas...
I hate to give up...
but suspect this one is not going to be put back into service
From: philo on
a cooling fan.
>>
>> Your problem could be occurring while the boot block is doing
>> its thing, so in fact the problem could be entirely at stock
>> speeds. I don't know whether a board like that, does a double
>> restart to apply user settings or not. If it does do something
>> like that, there might not be much in fact that you can do with
>> the BIOS, to influence the problem.
>>
>> Drop to one stick of RAM and see if that helps.
>>
>> Paul
>
> Yep...even tried that too
>
>
> thanks for the ideas...
> I hate to give up...
> but suspect this one is not going to be put back into service



Under clocking did not help...

I think I'll recycle the board
From: larry moe 'n curly on


philo wrote:
> I've got a GA-K8N Pro-sli on the workbench
>
> It typically takes 8 - 12 tries to get it to boot up..
> but once booted the machine runs fine.
>
> I've tried everything I can think up...
> reflashed the bios with a newer one.
>
> Tried a different power supply / ram / video card etc
>
> even changed the cmos battery
>
>
> Since the machine starts too unreliably I'm going to pitch the mobo into
> the recycle bin...
>
> unless someone here has an idea I've missed

Lots of good info and advice here: www.badcaps.net

If any cylindrical capacitors are bulging or leaking on top, they and
all the ones just like them have to be replaced.



From: philo on
larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
> philo wrote:
>> I've got a GA-K8N Pro-sli on the workbench
>>
>> It typically takes 8 - 12 tries to get it to boot up..
>> but once booted the machine runs fine.
>>
>> I've tried everything I can think up...
>> reflashed the bios with a newer one.
>>
>> Tried a different power supply / ram / video card etc
>>
>> even changed the cmos battery
>>
>>
>> Since the machine starts too unreliably I'm going to pitch the mobo into
>> the recycle bin...
>>
>> unless someone here has an idea I've missed
>
> Lots of good info and advice here: www.badcaps.net
>
> If any cylindrical capacitors are bulging or leaking on top, they and
> all the ones just like them have to be replaced.
>
>
>


Thanks

the first thing I did was look at the caps...
they all look fine.

Of course looks don't tell the whole story.

About a year ago I did once try replacing the obviously bad caps on
another mobo...
but it was still flaky...so I assumed there were still some bad ones
that just had not yet exhibited bulging.

Considering that I've gotten several new boards in the $50 price
range...to me, it's not worth it to bother with replacing caps...