From: |-|ercules on
"herbzet" <herbzet(a)gmail.com> wrote \
>> You gave the wrong answer, try this, if you can't think of some suitable
>> interpretation then our discussion is over.
>
> Promises, promises.
>
>> Given a set of labeled boxes containing numbers inside them,
>> can you possibly find a box containing all the label numbers of boxes
>> that don't contain their own label number?
>
> --
> hz


This is just SO FRICKIN HILARIOUS.

Just ask this question to anyone in sci.math and they all tune out and can't answer!


>> Given a set of labeled boxes containing numbers inside them,
>> can you possibly find a box containing all the label numbers of boxes
>> that don't contain their own label number?


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

What a mob of great mathematicians. They're all geniuses just ask them, but
they had to sacrifice any reasoning about blocks with numbers on them to make
room for all the supermaths.

Mabye this will help?

____
| 7 |
____


OK herzbert, can you answer what number is inside the box?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA he can't do it!

Herc

From: |-|ercules on
>> Hey herzbert, care to answer this question you've avoided for numerous direct posts now?
>
> Why should I answer your questions, when you won't answer my questions?
> Who the hell are you supposed to be?
>
> See, e.g., news:4C0A4BD3.7797B2BE(a)gmail.com


I asked first. Forte Agent has expired and google doesn't recognize that
as a message id, what questions?

The only questions I've been asked are copouts to avoid answering if
there's a box with numbers in it.

Herc
From: herbzet on


|-|ercules wrote:
>
> >> Hey herzbert, care to answer this question you've avoided for numerous direct posts now?
> >
> > Why should I answer your questions, when you won't answer my questions?
> > Who the hell are you supposed to be?
> >
> > See, e.g., news:4C0A4BD3.7797B2BE(a)gmail.com
>
> I asked first.

I answered first.

> Forte Agent has expired

So what?

> and google doesn't recognize that as a message id

Go to gurgle groups advanced search.

At the bottom there is a field for searching by message ID.

Remove the 'news:' prefix in the link. Remove the whitespace
at the end of the link.

--
hz
From: |-|ercules on
"herbzet" <herbzet(a)gmail.com> wrote ...
>
>
> |-|ercules wrote:
>> "herbzet" wrote ...
>> > |-|ercules wrote:
>> >> "herbzet" wrote ...
>> >> > |-|ercules wrote:
>> >> >> "herbzet" wrote ...
>> >> >> > |-|ercules wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> I want to hear mathematicians explain why the nonexistence of a box that contains
>> >> >> >> the numbers of the boxes that don't contain their own number means that higher
>> >> >> >> infinity exists.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Who said that? Cite, please.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you did.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Because the most widely used proof of uncountable infinity is the
>> >> >> > contradiction of a bijection from N to P(N), which is analagous to
>> >> >> > the missing box question.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Perhaps so, but why do you ask?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> hz
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > Then again, perhaps not.
>> >>
>> >> you can crawl back under your rock until the box question goes away.
>> >
>> > What question was that now? You keep moving the goalposts on us.
>> >
>> > Perhaps if you can manage to phrase the question with some rigor,
>> > it is possible that you would receive a concise reply.
>> >
>>
>> ok, we have boxes, all numbered from 1, 2, 3... and so on indefinitely.
>>
>> inside the boxes are some physical representations of natural numbers,
>> any finite or infinite amount of them, composed of 1 of each of 1, 2, 3...
>>
>> can any of the boxes contain only the numbers of all the boxes that don't contain
>> their own numbers?
>>
>> what can you deduce from this?
>
> What is "this"?
>
> --
> hz

the first question is content, the second question is application of the first answer.
standard exam question format.

Herc

From: herbzet on


|-|ercules wrote:
> "herbzet" wrote ...
> > |-|ercules wrote:
> >> "herbzet" wrote ...
> >> > |-|ercules wrote:
> >> >> "herbzet" wrote ...
> >> >> > |-|ercules wrote:
> >> >> >> "herbzet" wrote ...
> >> >> >> > |-|ercules wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> I want to hear mathematicians explain why the nonexistence of a box that contains
> >> >> >> >> the numbers of the boxes that don't contain their own number means that higher
> >> >> >> >> infinity exists.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Who said that? Cite, please.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> you did.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Because the most widely used proof of uncountable infinity is the
> >> >> >> > contradiction of a bijection from N to P(N), which is analagous to
> >> >> >> > the missing box question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Perhaps so, but why do you ask?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> hz
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Then again, perhaps not.
> >> >>
> >> >> you can crawl back under your rock until the box question goes away.
> >> >
> >> > What question was that now? You keep moving the goalposts on us.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps if you can manage to phrase the question with some rigor,
> >> > it is possible that you would receive a concise reply.
> >> >
> >>
> >> ok, we have boxes, all numbered from 1, 2, 3... and so on indefinitely.
> >>
> >> inside the boxes are some physical representations of natural numbers,
> >> any finite or infinite amount of them, composed of 1 of each of 1, 2, 3...
> >>
> >> can any of the boxes contain only the numbers of all the boxes that don't contain
> >> their own numbers?
> >>
> >> what can you deduce from this?
> >
> > What is "this"?
>
> the first question is content, the second question is application of the first answer.
> standard exam question format.

Am I your student, then?

--
hz