From: William Elliot on
The Corvallis school board is deciding upon a new math curriculum, one
that will focus on mathematical logic and reasoning instead of problem
solving. Is this happening elsewhere in the nation? That math will again
be taught in math classes?

Unfortunately there's yet more emphasis on working in teams and in
collaborating. That I consider to be a mistake like cook book math has
been. What I've noticed is that team work students are unsure of
themselves, that they need group confirmation at a time when they
need to become self reliant. Is this alas, becoming a national fad?
From: J. Clarke on
On 5/3/2010 4:37 AM, William Elliot wrote:
> The Corvallis school board is deciding upon a new math curriculum, one
> that will focus on mathematical logic and reasoning instead of problem
> solving. Is this happening elsewhere in the nation? That math will again
> be taught in math classes?
>
> Unfortunately there's yet more emphasis on working in teams and in
> collaborating. That I consider to be a mistake like cook book math has
> been. What I've noticed is that team work students are unsure of
> themselves, that they need group confirmation at a time when they
> need to become self reliant. Is this alas, becoming a national fad?

If so, it's an old one. Friend of mine retired from teaching in the
public schools more than 20 years ago. He still needs group consensus
to doubleclick a file.

The big question is what the math curriculum is supposed to accomplish.
A balance is needed--students need to know how to prove theorems, but
they also need to be able to solve problems, and knowing how to do one
does not necessarily enable one to do the other.



From: Pubkeybreaker on
On May 3, 7:00 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 5/3/2010 4:37 AM, William Elliot wrote:

> The big question is what the math curriculum is supposed to accomplish.
>   A balance is needed--students need to know how to prove theorems, but
> they also need to be able to solve problems, and knowing how to do one
> does not necessarily enable one to do the other.

I disagree. Strongly. If one knows how to prove theorems, then one
knows
how to solve problems. The converse, of course, is not necessarily
true.
From: William Hughes on
On May 3, 8:00 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

>   A balance is needed--students need to know how to prove theorems, but
> they also need to be able to solve problems, and knowing how to do one
> does not necessarily enable one to do the other.

Certainly students need to know how to solve problems, but
why do they *need* to know how to prove theorems, the overwhelming
majority will never need to prove a theorem is their lifetime.

- William Hughes

From: J. Clarke on
On 5/3/2010 7:37 AM, Pubkeybreaker wrote:
> On May 3, 7:00 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On 5/3/2010 4:37 AM, William Elliot wrote:
>
>> The big question is what the math curriculum is supposed to accomplish.
>> A balance is needed--students need to know how to prove theorems, but
>> they also need to be able to solve problems, and knowing how to do one
>> does not necessarily enable one to do the other.
>
> I disagree. Strongly. If one knows how to prove theorems, then one
> knows
> how to solve problems. The converse, of course, is not necessarily
> true.

Then you disagree with Apostol. We all know what he's done for the
teaching of calculus. What have _you_ done?