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From: Joyce Haslam on 9 Aug 2010 08:30
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:26:14 +0100, rmg wrote:

> There's obviously a way to get the windows in Gnome showing their
> Close/Minimise ... buttons top left instead of top right - it's what the
> Ubuntu live CD gives you. I'd love to do this on a dedicated machine to
> confuse the users who think they know a better way to close things than
> the [Done] button I so carefully provided (which does the closedown
> stuff gracefully), but blowed if I can find such a setting.
>
> Any pointers?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-
right-in-ubuntu-10.04/

I use Clearlooks, which puts the buttons on the right. Looks like several
of the other styles do too.

Joyce.
From: Tony Houghton on 9 Aug 2010 10:16
In <0Kqdnd_o8pmdaMLRnZ2dnUVZ8lWdnZ2d(a)bt.com>,
Joyce Haslam <newsreader(a)boulsworth.co.uk> wrote:

> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/

They show the right technique for changing the option, but what on earth
are they thinking of, swapping maximise and minimise? That's even more
confusing than having them on the opposite side to usual.

> I use Clearlooks, which puts the buttons on the right. Looks like several
> of the other styles do too.

Yes, changing the style does seem to overwrite the button_layout
setting, so rmg will have to watch out for users changing their themes.

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From: Tom Anderson on 9 Aug 2010 11:42
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, rmg wrote:

> There's obviously a way to get the windows in Gnome showing their
> Close/Minimise ... buttons top left instead of top right - it's what the
> Ubuntu live CD gives you. I'd love to do this on a dedicated machine to
> confuse the users who think they know a better way to close things than
> the [Done] button I so carefully provided (which does the closedown
> stuff gracefully), but blowed if I can find such a setting.
>
> Any pointers?

Going in another direction, is there some way that you can make the close
button do a graceful shutdown? ISTM that that would be a far greater
service to your users than moving their widgets around.

tom

--
For me, thats just logic. OTOH, Spock went bananas several times using
logic. -- Pete, mfw
From: Tony Houghton on 9 Aug 2010 12:11
In <4c5f2f09$0$27999$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
rmg <rmg(a)nospam.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> There's obviously a way to get the windows in Gnome showing their
> Close/Minimise ... buttons top left instead of top right - it's what the
> Ubuntu live CD gives you. I'd love to do this on a dedicated machine to
> confuse the users who think they know a better way to close things than
> the [Done] button I so carefully provided (which does the closedown
> stuff gracefully), but blowed if I can find such a setting.

If you provided a [Done] button that implies you wrote the application.
So why not hook into the "delete-event" signal (or whatever the
equivalent if not using GTK) and get that to do a graceful closedown?

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From: Tony Houghton on 10 Aug 2010 10:10
In <4c608707$0$28004$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
rmg <rmg(a)nospam.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, rmg wrote:
>>
>>> There's obviously a way to get the windows in Gnome showing their
>>> Close/Minimise ... buttons top left instead of top right - it's what
>>> the Ubuntu live CD gives you. I'd love to do this on a dedicated
>>> machine to confuse the users who think they know a better way to close
>>> things than the [Done] button I so carefully provided (which does the
>>> closedown stuff gracefully), but blowed if I can find such a setting.
>>>
>>> Any pointers?
>>
>> Going in another direction, is there some way that you can make the
>> close button do a graceful shutdown? ISTM that that would be a far
>> greater service to your users than moving their widgets around.
>
> Tony Houghton wrote:
>
> > If you provided a [Done] button that implies you wrote the application.
> > So why not hook into the "delete-event" signal (or whatever the
> > equivalent if not using GTK) and get that to do a graceful closedown?
>
> It's OOo basic actually. I could probably hook it to Close Document but
> my instinct is to force the [Do it], [Print it], [Done] sequence
> provided (buttons in that order). I've already crippled the menus to
> stop the users doing other undesirable things.

If you want to "train" your users you could get the close button to pop
up a message saying something like, "Don't click this, click [Done]".

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