From: Paul Ciszek on

In article <hhu11a$cge$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu>,
David Ruether <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Even with transparency film, the effects of UV on images at
>elevations to at least 11,000 feet are negligible - and any that
>you may encounter with digitial can be removed later, or by
>auto-white balance in the camera while shooting. Also, most
>multi-element lenses themselves absorb quite a bit of UV. If
>you want a good UV to just cover the lens with, I like the
>Hoya single coated UV or clear filters - but I avoid Tiffen
>filters "like the plague".

May I ask why? I was given a Tiffen filter with the camera.


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From: rwalker on
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:37:08 -0500, "David Ruether"
<d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote:

snip

> But, on the
>other side, I do use good (Hoya and Nikkor) filters to keep lenses clean
>(cleaning multicoated surfaces completely is very difficult, and I would
>rather scrub a filter, which I can also wash, than a lens surface...)

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That is the primary reason I have UV filters on most of my lenses.
I've shot without and with the filters, and the difference is not
noticeable to me. And since I only shoot for me, that's all that
matters. And, as you say, I'd rather clean the filter than the
actual lens. I don't have any illusions that the filter is magically
going to protect the lens from breaking in a high impact accident.
From: Ray Fischer on
Neil Harrington <never(a)home.com> wrote:
>In well over 50 years of amateur photography I have NEVER used a filter "to
>protect the lens," though I have used them for their design purpose,
>filtering. I've never yet had a lens damaged by lacking a "filter for
>protection."

Bully for you. One trip to the beach on a windy day was enough to
convince me that filters are very useful protection.

Unless you _like_ the front of your lens coated with salt spray?

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From: Chris H on
In message <4b45577f$0$1663$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer
<rfischer(a)sonic.net> writes
>Neil Harrington <never(a)home.com> wrote:
>>In well over 50 years of amateur photography I have NEVER used a filter "to
>>protect the lens," though I have used them for their design purpose,
>>filtering. I've never yet had a lens damaged by lacking a "filter for
>>protection."
>
>Bully for you. One trip to the beach on a windy day was enough to
>convince me that filters are very useful protection.
>
>Unless you _like_ the front of your lens coated with salt spray?


It's not just the beach.... dusty locations such as the farms and rural
areas have wind blown dust in the air, this will "sand blast" the front
of a lens. These days cities are no cleaner

You only have to look at windows in buildings and cars to see the sort
of stuff that is in the air.

Mind you I have never found Neil to be actually connected to reality.
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From: whisky-dave on

"rwalker" <rwalker(a)despammed.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:37:08 -0500, "David Ruether"
> <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> But, on the
>>other side, I do use good (Hoya and Nikkor) filters to keep lenses clean
>>(cleaning multicoated surfaces completely is very difficult, and I would
>>rather scrub a filter, which I can also wash, than a lens surface...)
>
> snip
>
> That is the primary reason I have UV filters on most of my lenses.
> I've shot without and with the filters, and the difference is not
> noticeable to me. And since I only shoot for me, that's all that
> matters. And, as you say, I'd rather clean the filter than the
> actual lens. I don't have any illusions that the filter is magically
> going to protect the lens from breaking in a high impact accident.

I've always concidered the filter to be protection from dust and grime
but what I found strange was that some people/photographers didn;t consider
the
fact that cleaning a filter quickly i.e without care because it's cheap and
replaceable
will degrade the quality of the image. This was in the days of film.
So my thoughts were that if a filter gets scratched/damaged then it should
be changed
but I've rarely heard of people actully doing this and prefer to just keep
using the
'protective' and somewhat scoured filter.