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From: Wes Groleau on 9 Jun 2010 16:04
On 06-09-2010 15:02, Davoud wrote:
> That makes sense to me. I have an Apple OS and I have Apple's Software
> Update. I run MS Office and I have a Microsoft Updater. Ditto Adobe,
> and other software that I permit to check for updates upon startup.
> It's not a huge leap from these to Google's system, IMO.

I have Apple OS and their updater only runs when specified by me.
I have Microsoft Office, and their updater only runs when specified by me.

Furthermore,
1. Apple updater does not hide. It's plainly visible on one of the menus.
2. Microsoft's installer allowed me to decline the updater
3. both updaters can be deleted without breaking the tools
4. I know of no other tools that silently re-install their updaters
5. Neither of those updaters silently try again thirty seconds after a
connection failure.

--
Wes Groleau

You're all individuals!
Yes, we're all individuals!
You're all different!
Yes, we are all different!
I'm not!
("Life of Brian")
From: David Stone on 9 Jun 2010 16:14
In article <huos57$t7e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 06-09-2010 15:02, Davoud wrote:
> > That makes sense to me. I have an Apple OS and I have Apple's Software
> > Update. I run MS Office and I have a Microsoft Updater. Ditto Adobe,
> > and other software that I permit to check for updates upon startup.
> > It's not a huge leap from these to Google's system, IMO.
>
> I have Apple OS and their updater only runs when specified by me.
> I have Microsoft Office, and their updater only runs when specified by me.

Ditto for Adobe products: you can schedule the updater, or you can choose
to always do it manually. Ditto for various FireFox plug-ins.

> Furthermore,
> 1. Apple updater does not hide. It's plainly visible on one of the menus.
> 2. Microsoft's installer allowed me to decline the updater
> 3. both updaters can be deleted without breaking the tools
> 4. I know of no other tools that silently re-install their updaters
> 5. Neither of those updaters silently try again thirty seconds after a
> connection failure.
From: Davoud on 9 Jun 2010 18:51
Davoud:
> > That makes sense to me. I have an Apple OS and I have Apple's Software
> > Update. I run MS Office and I have a Microsoft Updater. Ditto Adobe,
> > and other software that I permit to check for updates upon startup.
> > It's not a huge leap from these to Google's system, IMO.

Wes Groleau:
> I have Apple OS and their updater only runs when specified by me.
> I have Microsoft Office, and their updater only runs when specified by me.
>
> Furthermore,
> 1. Apple updater does not hide. It's plainly visible on one of the menus.
> 2. Microsoft's installer allowed me to decline the updater
> 3. both updaters can be deleted without breaking the tools
> 4. I know of no other tools that silently re-install their updaters
> 5. Neither of those updaters silently try again thirty seconds after a
> connection failure.

OK, but you elided the rest of my post, which can be summarized as "So
what?" If you don't want the updates, don't use the software.

Davoud

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you will say in your entire life.

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From: John Halloran on 9 Jun 2010 19:26
David Stone <no.email(a)domain.invalid> wrote:

> Apparently, Google Earth 5 gets automatically updated without
> notification, and without even running at the time! The only
> reason I found out about this is because I have NAV running,
> and it scanned the disk image for the update when it mounted.
> My copy of GE is now version 5.1, updated today, without even
> so much as an alert or installer dialog (other than NAV kicking
> in).
>
> This seems to be an undescribed 'feature' of Google Earth,
> which I find rather disturbing. Anyone else experience this,
> or know how to prevent it happening in the future? As I said,
> I did NOT have GE running at the time of the update, which
> means there must be something else installed on my computer
> doing that. I do not, however, remember seeing that described
> anywhere during installation or in the user manual for GE.

There is a page on the Macworld web site that addresses stopping
Google's software updater from automatically running.

For stopping automatic updates to Google Chrome, the following easy
method appears to work. It does allows manual updating to work, while
some other methods listed on Macworld prevent manual updates.

Download then run the utility "Lingon". Lingon lets you edit launchd
configuration files through a graphical interface.

In the group of "Users Agents" click on "com.google.keystone.agent".
Uncheck the "Enabled" box.

In the group of "Users Daemons", click on "com.google.keystone.daemon".
Uncheck the "Enabled" box

From: Warren Oates on 9 Jun 2010 19:34
In article <1jju1q8.srgaym1lamtywN%jfoh(a)ct.invalid>,
jfoh(a)ct.invalid (John Halloran) wrote:

> Download then run the utility "Lingon". Lingon lets you edit launchd
> configuration files through a graphical interface.
>
> In the group of "Users Agents" click on "com.google.keystone.agent".
> Uncheck the "Enabled" box.
>
> In the group of "Users Daemons", click on "com.google.keystone.daemon".
> Uncheck the "Enabled" box

You don't really need Lingon. You can uncheck the boxes in the plist
editor. They don't say "enabled" but y'all can probably figure it out.

Watch now, someone will say "but that's against the TOS ..."
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
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