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From: Arved Sandstrom on 11 Apr 2010 20:35
Stefan Ram wrote:
> �He created the original design of Java and implemented
> its original compiler and virtual machine.�
>
> �Since 1984, Gosling has been with Sun Microsystems, and
> is known as the father of the Java programming language.
>
> In April 2010, Gosling left Sun Microsystems which had
> recently been acquired by the Oracle Corporation.�
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gosling
>
> http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/time_to_move_on
>
He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped ship
to Google about a month and a half ago.

AHS
From: Lew on 11 Apr 2010 20:42
Stefan Ram wrote:
>> »He created the original design of Java and implemented
>> its original compiler and virtual machine.«
>>
>> »Since 1984, Gosling has been with Sun Microsystems, and
>> is known as the father of the Java programming language.
>>
>> In April 2010, Gosling left Sun Microsystems which had
>> recently been acquired by the Oracle Corporation.«
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gosling
>>
>> http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/time_to_move_on

Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped ship
> to Google about a month and a half ago.

And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?

(Nearly six years.)

--
Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 11 Apr 2010 22:06
On 11-04-2010 20:42, Lew wrote:
> Stefan Ram wrote:
>>> »He created the original design of Java and implemented
>>> its original compiler and virtual machine.«
>>>
>>> »Since 1984, Gosling has been with Sun Microsystems, and
>>> is known as the father of the Java programming language.
>>>
>>> In April 2010, Gosling left Sun Microsystems which had
>>> recently been acquired by the Oracle Corporation.«
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gosling
>>>
>>> http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/time_to_move_on
>
> Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped
>> ship to Google about a month and a half ago.
>
> And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>
> (Nearly six years.)

Occasionally people do find new jobs.

SUN has had financial problems for many many years. No
surprise that some people were let go or left for other
companies (that were willing to pay more or provide
better work conditions).

After SUN got swallowed by Oracle, then all the SUN
employees have to change company culture anyway. In Oracle
they will get new bosses, new org chart, new titles,
new compensation structure, new internal systems for
everything from time sheet to ordering pens and paper.
In that case it is not surprising that some people
will pick another new company than Oracle to work for.

But I don't see either of those as a disaster for
Java. The people most likely will continue to work
with Java.

Joshua Blocg is still heavily involved in JCP work
after moving to Google. And he may have had some
influence on making Google use more Java.

So no need for panic.

Arne
From: Steve Sobol on 14 Apr 2010 23:08
In article <f9vcs5p78tc8skbcbcd3c9sp6onm4jmaur(a)4ax.com>,
see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says...
>
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:42:29 -0400, Lew <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote,
> quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
> >> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped ship
> >> to Google about a month and a half ago.
> >
> >And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>
> Bill Joy left too. Sun provided them a fun playground and lots of
> freedom. Oracle is probably run by blue meanies in comparison.


I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison. Ellison is the arrogant jerk
that claimed you couldn't break into Oracle's flagship database product
while people were, in fact, finding exploits for it.

My best friend of 30 years used to be a stock analyst tracking tech
stocks. He's actually met Ellison. He doesn't have a high opinion of
Ellison, either.


--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: EricF on 15 Apr 2010 00:01
In article <MPG.263022f332ad79bd9898eb(a)news.justthe.net>, Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net> wrote:
>In article <f9vcs5p78tc8skbcbcd3c9sp6onm4jmaur(a)4ax.com>,
>see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says...
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:42:29 -0400, Lew <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote,
>> quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>>
>> >> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped ship
>> >> to Google about a month and a half ago.
>> >
>> >And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>>
>> Bill Joy left too. Sun provided them a fun playground and lots of
>> freedom. Oracle is probably run by blue meanies in comparison.
>
>
>I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison. Ellison is the arrogant jerk
>that claimed you couldn't break into Oracle's flagship database product
>while people were, in fact, finding exploits for it.
>
>My best friend of 30 years used to be a stock analyst tracking tech
>stocks. He's actually met Ellison. He doesn't have a high opinion of
>Ellison, either.
>
>
I agree with your opinion about Ellison but the company is doing very well and
Larry is rich as hell. He must be doing something right.

Eric
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