From: Steve Sobol on
In article <hq632b$pj4$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, eric(a)invalid.com
says...


> I agree with your opinion about Ellison but the company is doing very
well and
> Larry is rich as hell. He must be doing something right.

Agreed. I made no comment about their products, I just wouldn't want to
work for Ellison.

And, in reality, Oracle has a huge investment in Java, and it would not
make sense for them to try to screw it up.

--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Roedy Green on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:08:10 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)JustThe.net>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison.

According to the Wikipedia:
Lawrence Joseph "Larry" Ellison (born August 17, 1944) is an American
entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Oracle Corporation, a major
enterprise software company. As of 2010, he is the sixth richest
person in the world with a personal wealth of US$28 billion.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com

It�s amazing how much structure natural languages have when you consider who speaks them and how they evolved.
From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 14-04-2010 23:08, Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article<f9vcs5p78tc8skbcbcd3c9sp6onm4jmaur(a)4ax.com>,
> see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says...
>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:42:29 -0400, Lew<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote,
>> quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>>>> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray jumped ship
>>>> to Google about a month and a half ago.
>>>
>>> And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>>
>> Bill Joy left too. Sun provided them a fun playground and lots of
>> freedom. Oracle is probably run by blue meanies in comparison.
>
> I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison. Ellison is the arrogant jerk
> that claimed you couldn't break into Oracle's flagship database product
> while people were, in fact, finding exploits for it.
>
> My best friend of 30 years used to be a stock analyst tracking tech
> stocks. He's actually met Ellison. He doesn't have a high opinion of
> Ellison, either.

I don't think you build billion dollar companies and billion dollar
net worths by being nice.

Arne


From: Mike Schilling on
Arne Vajh�j wrote:
> On 14-04-2010 23:08, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> In article<f9vcs5p78tc8skbcbcd3c9sp6onm4jmaur(a)4ax.com>,
>> see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says...
>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:42:29 -0400, Lew<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote,
>>> quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>>>>> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray
>>>>> jumped ship to Google about a month and a half ago.
>>>>
>>>> And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>>>
>>> Bill Joy left too. Sun provided them a fun playground and lots of
>>> freedom. Oracle is probably run by blue meanies in comparison.
>>
>> I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison. Ellison is the arrogant
>> jerk that claimed you couldn't break into Oracle's flagship database
>> product while people were, in fact, finding exploits for it.
>>
>> My best friend of 30 years used to be a stock analyst tracking tech
>> stocks. He's actually met Ellison. He doesn't have a high opinion of
>> Ellison, either.
>
> I don't think you build billion dollar companies and billion dollar
> net worths by being nice.

AFAIK, Warren Buffet is a good fellow, and Bill Gates seems quite sincere
about world hunger.


From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 17-04-2010 01:50, Mike Schilling wrote:
> Arne Vajh�j wrote:
>> On 14-04-2010 23:08, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>> In article<f9vcs5p78tc8skbcbcd3c9sp6onm4jmaur(a)4ax.com>,
>>> see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:42:29 -0400, Lew<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote,
>>>> quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>>>>>> He wasn't the first high-profile Sun dude to leave; Tim Bray
>>>>>> jumped ship to Google about a month and a half ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how long has it been since Josh Bloch went to Google?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Joy left too. Sun provided them a fun playground and lots of
>>>> freedom. Oracle is probably run by blue meanies in comparison.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't want to work for Larry Ellison. Ellison is the arrogant
>>> jerk that claimed you couldn't break into Oracle's flagship database
>>> product while people were, in fact, finding exploits for it.
>>>
>>> My best friend of 30 years used to be a stock analyst tracking tech
>>> stocks. He's actually met Ellison. He doesn't have a high opinion of
>>> Ellison, either.
>>
>> I don't think you build billion dollar companies and billion dollar
>> net worths by being nice.
>
> AFAIK, Warren Buffet is a good fellow,

Maybe.

But I am skeptical.

John D Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie etc. were all pretty tough cookies.

> and Bill Gates seems quite sincere
> about world hunger.

Ah. But he is retired now.

There is a strange american tradition for successful business men
to become multi-billionaires being completely ruthless and then retire
and give most of the money to charity.

John D Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie etc..

Arne