From: gl4317 on
In article <300320102333137245%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <gl4317-3003102022430001(a)69-30-9-164.pxd.easystreet.com>,
> <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Photoshop saves the files in its own native format, with all the layers
> > and other stuff built right into the file. You then export to GIF, JPEG,
> > etc., or keep it as a GIF, JPEG, etc. without saving the native format.
> > GraphicConverter has no such native format. You edit the pixels you have.
>
> both are editing the pixels you have,


No. In its native file format, Photoshop can save such things as vectors
and text for editing afterward. GraphicConverter converts text to pixels
when it is finalized, not allowing one to edit the text afterward. There
aren't layers. (At least, not in the version I have.)

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From: Jeffrey Goldberg on
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John wrote:

> I am wondering if the current GC will do the job for me. Just need a app
> that can crop, retouch, filter, change, and mess with photos.

It depends on what you mean by "retouch", "change" and "mess with".
For some meanings of those expressions GC and iPhoto are enough. For
other meanings it is sorely lacking.

For the record I should mention GIMP. It's free, it's powerful, and it
is a real pain to learn and use. If you can put up with its terrible
user interface, it should do everything you want.

-j

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From: gl4317 on
In article <jwolf6589-59FA0C.21564431032010(a)nntp.charter.net>, John
<jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> I am wondering if the current GC will do the job for me. Just need a app
> that can crop, retouch, filter, change, and mess with photos.


One of the things that I really miss about GraphicConverter when I use
photoshop is the cropping tool. Photoshop has probably changed since the
old version I have where I work was put out, but GraphicConverter has a
nice little display in the upper right corner that gives the size of the
resulting cropped image. If you need, say, a 560 x 500 for a web page,
you can select one corner of what you want and as you move the rectangle
it gives you a reading of the resulting image size as you move the other
end of the rectangle. You can then move the other corner of the rectangle
to the exact location to fit the size you want. You then select "Trim
Selection" from the menu.

In Photoshop, you choose the crop tool and just roughly guess at the image
size as you crop it. You then have to choose Image Size from the menu to
see what the actual resulting image size is after the crop.

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From: nospam on
In article <gl4317-3103102139120001(a)69-30-9-104.pxd.easystreet.com>,
<gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Photoshop saves the files in its own native format, with all the layers
> > > and other stuff built right into the file. You then export to GIF, JPEG,
> > > etc., or keep it as a GIF, JPEG, etc. without saving the native format.
> > > GraphicConverter has no such native format. You edit the pixels you have.
> >
> > both are editing the pixels you have,
>
> No. In its native file format, Photoshop can save such things as vectors
> and text for editing afterward.

ok, i was just thinking images such as a jpeg or gif.

> GraphicConverter converts text to pixels
> when it is finalized, not allowing one to edit the text afterward. There
> aren't layers. (At least, not in the version I have.)

that's worse.
From: nospam on
In article <gl4317-3103102148150001(a)69-30-9-104.pxd.easystreet.com>,
<gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> One of the things that I really miss about GraphicConverter when I use
> photoshop is the cropping tool. Photoshop has probably changed since the
> old version I have where I work was put out, but GraphicConverter has a
> nice little display in the upper right corner that gives the size of the
> resulting cropped image.

it's in the info palette, and it's probably in the version you have.

> If you need, say, a 560 x 500 for a web page,
> you can select one corner of what you want and as you move the rectangle
> it gives you a reading of the resulting image size as you move the other
> end of the rectangle. You can then move the other corner of the rectangle
> to the exact location to fit the size you want. You then select "Trim
> Selection" from the menu.

you can set a fixed size crop and just click, then position the
rectangle wherever you want.

> In Photoshop, you choose the crop tool and just roughly guess at the image
> size as you crop it. You then have to choose Image Size from the menu to
> see what the actual resulting image size is after the crop.

see above.