From: Mark Hobley on 22 Jan 2010 21:08 Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1(a)aol.com> wrote: > The point is: most graphics cards manufacturers don't want to publish > the tricks, built into their cards, by offering open-source drivers. This doesn't make any sense. Computers are supposed to be programmable. If we can't program the card, then it's a useless piece of kit IMHO. Mark. -- Mark Hobley Linux User: #370818 http://markhobley.yi.org/
From: John Hasler on 22 Jan 2010 22:22 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > The point is: most graphics cards manufacturers don't want to publish > the tricks, built into their cards, by offering open-source drivers. Actually it is often that they can't publish them, having licensed some from others under astonishingly restrictive terms. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on 23 Jan 2010 00:33 On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, John Hasler <jhas...(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > The point is: most graphics cards manufacturers don't want to publish > > the tricks, built into their cards, by offering open-source drivers. > > Actually it is often that they can't publish them, having licensed some > from others under astonishingly restrictive terms. And they don't want anyone but their own developers to be able to program them, or duplicate their feature sets for their own cards.
From: The Natural Philosopher on 23 Jan 2010 04:58 Mark Hobley wrote: > Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1(a)aol.com> wrote: >> The point is: most graphics cards manufacturers don't want to publish >> the tricks, built into their cards, by offering open-source drivers. > > This doesn't make any sense. Computers are supposed to be programmable. Computers WERE suppose dto be prgrammable. Today, they are PeeCees..consumer not very durables. > If we can't program the card, then it's a useless piece of kit IMHO. > try telling that to anyone who is using a car with computerised fuel injection..;-) > Mark. >
From: Trevor Hemsley on 23 Jan 2010 11:31
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:45:25 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've given specifics on ATI cards > that work well, namely the 9200 series of cards, which are admittedly > somewhat out of date. ( 9200's will be AGP. I used to use those when I had an AGP slot. Now I have an PCiE X300SE which works most of the time but it's almost impossible to use Google Earth with it - if you use the open source drivers then it's either glacially slow to render (~5 minutes to get the initial screen loaded) or, if you can find the right incantation to chant to make it work in direct rendering mode then it randomly locks up X completely after a few minutes use. The ATI drivers were just rubbish last time I tried them though it has been a long time since I last tried (end of 2008) - but when I did then applications would randomly just disappear and terminate when the ATI drivers felt like picking on them! From what I remember of NVidia cards, it's very tricky if not impossible to get the proprietary drivers to work with a Xen kernel. I don't want a card to play games with, the most strenuous thing I do with my video system is try to use Google Earth to see far flung parts of the world where my relatives live. If I could fix my X300SE so that it didn't lock up all the time or draw pixel by visible pixel then I' d be happy. Failing that then I too would love to know of a decent, preferably cheap, PCiE video card that will work nicely in dri mode. -- Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK Trevor dot Hemsley at ntlworld dot com |