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From: "Juan R." González-Álvarez on 28 Nov 2008 14:07 Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:58:07 +0000: > Cite supporting references, please. You already said *before* that GR explains any observation. Cite the references supporting your claims! -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/
From: "Juan R." González-Álvarez on 28 Nov 2008 14:08 Albertito wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:03:38 -0800: (snip more misunderstanding) -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Nov 2008 14:09 Albertito wrote: > On Nov 28, 6:56 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote: >>> Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:19:55 +0000: >>>> General Relativity is a theory invented by Albert Einstein >>> General Relativity is the result of the work of a number of authors. Main >>> authors were Einstein, Grossman[n], and Hilbert. >>> Attributing GR to Einstein alone is, of course, historically inacurate. >> There are many who are not comfortable with non-intuitive aspects >> of modern physics, such as the quantum mechanics and relativity. >> >> What is important is that the resulting physical theories are very >> fruitful. Take relativity, for example. Are you aware that there has >> never been a prediction of relativity that was contradicted by an >> observation? > > Yes, I'm aware of that. For example, gravitional waves > are prediction of relativity. Since, gravitational waves > will never be observed, its non-observation never will > contradict relativity! > Hulse and Taylor
From: "Juan R." González-Álvarez on 28 Nov 2008 14:14 Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:09:14 +0000: > Albertito wrote: >> On Nov 28, 6:56 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>> Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote: >>>> Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:19:55 +0000: >>>>> General Relativity is a theory invented by Albert Einstein >>>> General Relativity is the result of the work of a number of authors. >>>> Main authors were Einstein, Grossman[n], and Hilbert. Attributing GR >>>> to Einstein alone is, of course, historically inacurate. >>> There are many who are not comfortable with non-intuitive aspects >>> of modern physics, such as the quantum mechanics and relativity. >>> >>> What is important is that the resulting physical theories are very >>> fruitful. Take relativity, for example. Are you aware that there >>> has never been a prediction of relativity that was contradicted by >>> an observation? >> >> Yes, I'm aware of that. For example, gravitional waves are prediction >> of relativity. Since, gravitational waves will never be observed, its >> non-observation never will contradict relativity! >> >> > Hulse and Taylor Both received a Nobel for discovering of the famous binary pulsar, just that. 1) Gravitational waves have been never detected. Everything about pulsar is about indirect tests. 2) Last high precision observations reveals that binary pulsar is better described by non-geometrical theory of gravity which gives the same prediction than GR more a 1% excess cannot be explained using GR. -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/
From: "Juan R." González-Álvarez on 28 Nov 2008 14:16
Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:11:36 +0000: > Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote: >> Sam Wormley wrote on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:58:07 +0000: >> >>> Cite supporting references, please. >> >> You already said *before* that GR explains any observation. Cite the >> references supporting your claims! >> >> >> > You are the one, Juan, claiming failures of GTR, not me. You are the one, Sam, claiming "there has never been a prediction of relativity that was contradicted by an observation", not me. Waiting your references that above tests and observation cited in the OP are in agreement with GR :-) -- http://www.canonicalscience.org/ |