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From: Karl E. Peterson on 11 May 2010 13:36 It seems that Microsoft has accidentally created a few groups over the years, then removed them from their own servers. I'm afraid it's a hit/miss story, though, as far as them still being available on the broader usenet. Two I'm aware of: microsoft.public.access microsoft.public.word.programming On some NNTP servers, not on others. I don't know by what criteria NNTP admins accept rmgroup commands, but my impression was most don't these days because they're so easily forged. Question is, how long the old microsoft.public.vb.* hierarchy will survive in the wild?
From: Karl E. Peterson on 11 May 2010 13:53 Ulrich Korndoerfer wrote: > I just posted to dbp: > Following a cite of one of his posts regarding how he will proceed in the > case of the MS shutdown: > > http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.hierarchies/browse_thread/thread/67439c68236e7e35 Saw that, yeah. Depressing. But it's a good lead to follow-up on! -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: dpb on 11 May 2010 14:21 Karl E. Peterson wrote: > Ulrich Korndoerfer wrote: >> I just posted to dbp: >> Following a cite of one of his posts regarding how he will proceed in >> the case of the MS shutdown: >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.hierarchies/browse_thread/thread/67439c68236e7e35 >> > > Saw that, yeah. Depressing. But it's a good lead to follow-up on! Not terribly unsurprising I suppose. But note Tim Kirvian's (sp?) response of fast-tracking comp.* groups.... If you're not happy w/ the use of existing comp.* groups, that's way I'd suggest going. --
From: Nobody on 11 May 2010 15:09 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:hsc4j8$dt4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > It seems that Microsoft has accidentally created a few groups over the > years, then removed them from their own servers. I'm afraid it's a > hit/miss story, though, as far as them still being available on the > broader usenet. Two I'm aware of: > > microsoft.public.access > microsoft.public.word.programming > > On some NNTP servers, not on others. I don't know by what criteria NNTP > admins accept rmgroup commands, but my impression was most don't these > days because they're so easily forged. Question is, how long the old > microsoft.public.vb.* hierarchy will survive in the wild? The following specific group doesn't show up in msnews server, but my ISP(Cox) shows it. I don't know if there is such a thing as a hidden newsgroup. microsoft.public.vb Google stopped indexing it since 2008 although my ISP shows some posts, one from this year, and 9 posts from 2009. Here is the link to Google version: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.vb/about?hl=en Here is a link to msnews for that group. news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.vb When I click on the link, I get the following error: 411 no such newsgroup Configuration: Account: msnews.microsoft.com Server: msnews.microsoft.com Protocol: NNTP Port: 119 Secure(SSL): 0 Error Number: 411 Code: 800ccca5
From: Karl E. Peterson on 11 May 2010 16:02
dpb wrote: > Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> Ulrich Korndoerfer wrote: >>> I just posted to dbp: >>> Following a cite of one of his posts regarding how he will proceed in the >>> case of the MS shutdown: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.hierarchies/browse_thread/thread/67439c68236e7e35 >>> >> >> Saw that, yeah. Depressing. But it's a good lead to follow-up on! > > Not terribly unsurprising I suppose. But note Tim Kirvian's (sp?) response > of fast-tracking comp.* groups.... > > If you're not happy w/ the use of existing comp.* groups, that's way I'd > suggest going. Yeah, Big8 seems aware of this particular Microsoft reamjob, and is offering to help out as best they can. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |