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From: jemster on 16 Jun 2010 00:39
OK, it's getting a little clearer, (I think) this would allow transfer of
data even tho I can't power up my desktop?? and it is like a hard drive??
Since mine is useless since I neglected to copy any data to it??


"Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
news:OSTYyYQDLHA.5784(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Then Shenan's advice is still sound. It would be wise to copy the data
> off the drive. Another option (instead of an enclosure) is to use an
> adapter like this one:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16812161002
>
> Then determine the specific hardware problem. My guess is you need to
> replace the power supply.
>
> jemster wrote:
> > Ok, let me attempt to explain better (if I can..:-))T
> >
> > The desktop has the problem. It has had a external hard drive
> > connected to it for about two years but due to my ignorance and no
> > instructions...I just connected it to a port on the tower....didn't
> > know about drag & drop. :-p The laptop is fine...just using it to
> > yell for help.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23Cm519PDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Here's another picture of two hard drives:
> >>
> >> http://zone.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/tut/Laptop%20vs%20Desktop.png
> >>
> >> The one on the left (3.5") is one you would find in a desktop PC (or
> >> a tower, if it stands upright). The one on the right (2.5") is one
> >> you would find in a laptop.
> >>
> >> If I read the advice correctly, you were advised to remove the hard
> >> drive from the laptop (Shenan believed there was something wrong
> >> with it and figured you might as well save the data before it's too
> >> late) and place it inside an external case like this one:
> >>
> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182145
> >>
> >> But Shenan may have reached this conclusion (that your hard drive was
> >> dying) based on your statement (using the incorrect terminolgy) "I
> >> pushed the power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after
> >> a minute." You later indicated you meant the laptop and not the hard
> >> drive!
> >>
> >> This statement:
> >>
> >> "Saturday when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon
> >> as my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and off."
> >>
> >> ... indicates a hardware problem to me. And if you don't want to lose
> >> the stuff on your computer, you should certainly follow Shenan's
> >> advice (of find someone competent who can do that for you).
> >>
> >> You say you have the laptop connected to an external hard drive. But
> >> this won't help you if you can't run the laptop (if your immediate
> >> goal is to save all your important data).
> >>
> >> Then again, if you had been using a good backup strategy (you never
> >> did tell us if you did or didn't), then all your data would be on
> >> that external hard drive. But based on your worried statement, I
> >> doubt this is the case. :-(
> >>
> >>
> >> jemster wrote:
> >>> Thanks Daave I needed that! :-) Also I was advised to get a case for
> >>> my external hard drive to use it with my laptop. Why do I need a
> >>> case?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:OLXxDWPDLHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Ah. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> This is what a hard drive looks like:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://rjmcomputersboise.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hardrive2.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> (opened up)
> >>>> http://learnthat.com/files/2010/03/hard-drive.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> If your PC (personal computer) is a desktop, you can probably call
> >>>> it a tower. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> The hard drive, by the way, contains data (operating system,
> >>>> programs, and all your many files like documents, photos, etc.).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> jemster wrote:
> >>>>> Power button on the computer. Sorry, I thought it was called the
> >>>>> hard drive-the tower or whatever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "thecreator" <thecreator(a)home.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:eGF6W$IDLHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Hi Joni,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Power Button on the computer or Power Button on the External
> >>>>>> Hard Drive are you talking about?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How old is the computer in question?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> thecreator
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "jemster" <jemster(a)gtcinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:exurF6HDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> I have a Gateway desktop (Win XP Home w/sp3 IE 7) and lately it
> >>>>>>> has been slowing down painfully slow despite running Avira
> >>>>>>> anti-virus, Spybot,, PConPoint, doing disk cleanup, defrag, etc.
> >>>>>>> Last Thursday I turned on the monitor and when I pushed the
> >>>>>>> power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after a
> >>>>>>> minute so I kept doing it and each time it would load a little
> >>>>>>> further before it shut off. It finally stayed on until I
> >>>>>>> finished with email and shut it down. Friday went thru the same
> >>>>>>> thing praying all the time it would let me do a system restore.
> >>>>>>> I was able to do that to a week prior .and thought it would be
> >>>>>>> ok...ha...doing my own thinking again. Saturday when I pushed
> >>>>>>> the power button it would shut off as soon as my finger left
> >>>>>>> the button. I could hear the fan turn on and off. I have so much
> >>>>>>> stuff on that computer that I sure don't want to lose...oh I
> >>>>>>> also have had a
> >>>>>>> external hard drive connected to it. What do I do/try now?
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Joni
>
>


From: jemster on 16 Jun 2010 05:37
I was able to boot up long enough to transfer data to the external hard
drive....YEA!!!! Praying and swear words DO help! :-)
I also ordered a power supply to try first.
Bless yer little pea-pickin' heart Daave...you've been a lot of help!!

"Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
news:OmjxDbPDLHA.2012(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> jemster wrote:
> > I have a Gateway desktop (Win XP Home w/sp3 IE 7) and lately it has
> > been slowing down painfully slow despite running Avira anti-virus,
> > Spybot,, PConPoint, doing disk cleanup, defrag, etc. Last Thursday I
> > turned on the monitor and when I pushed the power button on the hard
> > drive it turned itself off after a minute so I kept doing it and each
> > time it would load a little further before it shut off. It finally
> > stayed on until I finished with email and shut it down. Friday went
> > thru the same thing praying all the time it would let me do a system
> > restore. I was able to do that to a week prior .and thought it would
> > be ok...ha...doing my own thinking again. Saturday when I pushed the
> > power button it would shut off as soon as my finger left the button.
> > I could hear the fan turn on and off. I have so much stuff on that
> > computer that I sure don't want to lose...oh I also have had a
> > external hard drive connected to it. What do I do/try now?
> > Thanks
> > Joni
>
> Sounds like you may need to replace the power supply.
>
> Since this is clearly a hardware issue, this page might help:
>
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Hardware_Tshoot
>
> Also cross-posting to:
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
>
>


From: Daave on 16 Jun 2010 07:14
The method suggested by Shenan was to remove the internal hard drive
from your PC and place it in an external enclosure. This would make it
an external drive. While in this state, you could copy the data residing
on it yet once again -- to another hard drive, to a laptop or other
desktop (actually, to the hard drives that would be inside a laptop or
desktop) Of course you could alwasy reverse the process! So, for
instance, if you needed to wipe the hard drive (after you copied the
data a second time and placed it back inside the tower) to perform a
Clean Install of Windows XP, all your data will have been saved.

The option I offered allows you to keep the hard drive in the tower and
still transfer the data on it to another source (e.g., a laptop or
another desktop or even an external hard drive). This eliminates the
need to physically remove the internal drive from your tower and place
it in an external enclosure.

I see from your other post that you were somehow able to copy the data
to an external hard drive. I hope this was successful and you were able
to transfer *all* of it.

I was hoping someone else would have chimed in before you ordered the
power supply. Although this is what I suspect the problem to be, it
could still be something else!

So now that you have placed the order, let's hope that's what you need!

jemster wrote:
> OK, it's getting a little clearer, (I think) this would allow
> transfer of data even tho I can't power up my desktop?? and it is
> like a hard drive?? Since mine is useless since I neglected to copy
> any data to it??
>
>
> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> news:OSTYyYQDLHA.5784(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Then Shenan's advice is still sound. It would be wise to copy the
>> data off the drive. Another option (instead of an enclosure) is to
>> use an adapter like this one:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16812161002
>>
>> Then determine the specific hardware problem. My guess is you need to
>> replace the power supply.
>>
>> jemster wrote:
>>> Ok, let me attempt to explain better (if I can..:-))T
>>>
>>> The desktop has the problem. It has had a external hard drive
>>> connected to it for about two years but due to my ignorance and no
>>> instructions...I just connected it to a port on the tower....didn't
>>> know about drag & drop. :-p The laptop is fine...just using it to
>>> yell for help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Cm519PDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Here's another picture of two hard drives:
>>>>
>>>> http://zone.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/tut/Laptop%20vs%20Desktop.png
>>>>
>>>> The one on the left (3.5") is one you would find in a desktop PC
>>>> (or a tower, if it stands upright). The one on the right (2.5") is
>>>> one you would find in a laptop.
>>>>
>>>> If I read the advice correctly, you were advised to remove the hard
>>>> drive from the laptop (Shenan believed there was something wrong
>>>> with it and figured you might as well save the data before it's too
>>>> late) and place it inside an external case like this one:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182145
>>>>
>>>> But Shenan may have reached this conclusion (that your hard drive
>>>> was dying) based on your statement (using the incorrect
>>>> terminolgy) "I pushed the power button on the hard drive it turned
>>>> itself off after a minute." You later indicated you meant the
>>>> laptop and not the hard drive!
>>>>
>>>> This statement:
>>>>
>>>> "Saturday when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon
>>>> as my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and
>>>> off."
>>>>
>>>> ... indicates a hardware problem to me. And if you don't want to
>>>> lose the stuff on your computer, you should certainly follow
>>>> Shenan's advice (of find someone competent who can do that for
>>>> you).
>>>>
>>>> You say you have the laptop connected to an external hard drive.
>>>> But this won't help you if you can't run the laptop (if your
>>>> immediate goal is to save all your important data).
>>>>
>>>> Then again, if you had been using a good backup strategy (you never
>>>> did tell us if you did or didn't), then all your data would be on
>>>> that external hard drive. But based on your worried statement, I
>>>> doubt this is the case. :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jemster wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Daave I needed that! :-) Also I was advised to get a case
>>>>> for my external hard drive to use it with my laptop. Why do I
>>>>> need a case?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OLXxDWPDLHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ah. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what a hard drive looks like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://rjmcomputersboise.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hardrive2.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (opened up)
>>>>>> http://learnthat.com/files/2010/03/hard-drive.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your PC (personal computer) is a desktop, you can probably
>>>>>> call it a tower. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The hard drive, by the way, contains data (operating system,
>>>>>> programs, and all your many files like documents, photos, etc.).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jemster wrote:
>>>>>>> Power button on the computer. Sorry, I thought it was called the
>>>>>>> hard drive-the tower or whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "thecreator" <thecreator(a)home.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eGF6W$IDLHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hi Joni,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Power Button on the computer or Power Button on the
>>>>>>>> External Hard Drive are you talking about?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How old is the computer in question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> thecreator
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jemster" <jemster(a)gtcinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:exurF6HDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> I have a Gateway desktop (Win XP Home w/sp3 IE 7) and lately
>>>>>>>>> it has been slowing down painfully slow despite running Avira
>>>>>>>>> anti-virus, Spybot,, PConPoint, doing disk cleanup, defrag,
>>>>>>>>> etc. Last Thursday I turned on the monitor and when I pushed
>>>>>>>>> the power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after
>>>>>>>>> a minute so I kept doing it and each time it would load a
>>>>>>>>> little further before it shut off. It finally stayed on until
>>>>>>>>> I finished with email and shut it down. Friday went thru the
>>>>>>>>> same thing praying all the time it would let me do a system
>>>>>>>>> restore. I was able to do that to a week prior .and thought
>>>>>>>>> it would be ok...ha...doing my own thinking again. Saturday
>>>>>>>>> when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon as
>>>>>>>>> my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and
>>>>>>>>> off. I have so much stuff on that computer that I sure don't
>>>>>>>>> want to lose...oh I also have had a
>>>>>>>>> external hard drive connected to it. What do I do/try now?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Joni


From: Shaun Paine on 16 Jun 2010 17:06
Sir,
based on you initial report and following the group comments (a partially
mean spirited group) I think what you need is as follows

1; AN EXTERNAL CASE FOR YOUR HARD DRIVE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN YOUR
TOWER
This will allow you to attempt to read it from a USB port on
your laptop and possibly recover your data
2; A REPLACEMENT TO YOUR INTERNAL HARD DRIVE, THE SYMPTOMS YOU
DESCRIBED ARE THOSE
USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A DYING HARD DRIVE.
3; A COPY OF YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM, USUALLY SUPPLIED BY THE SYSTEM
MANUFACTURER

So after installing the rplacement drive and re-installing windows, wth
any luck youll be able to get your old drive (Now in an external case) to
spin up and let you read it so you can recover your data from it
I seriously doubt it's a power supply problem but, I am a bit concerned by
the fact the computer kept turning off in a few moments so if it were me Id
replace that as well it is realitively in expensive and if it is failing it
too can cause hard drive failure sooo... hope that was helpfull

"jemster" <jemster(a)gtcinternet.com> wrote in message
news:OM8oW5QDLHA.3880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK, it's getting a little clearer, (I think) this would allow transfer of
> data even tho I can't power up my desktop?? and it is like a hard drive??
> Since mine is useless since I neglected to copy any data to it??
>
>
> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> news:OSTYyYQDLHA.5784(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Then Shenan's advice is still sound. It would be wise to copy the data
>> off the drive. Another option (instead of an enclosure) is to use an
>> adapter like this one:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16812161002
>>
>> Then determine the specific hardware problem. My guess is you need to
>> replace the power supply.
>>
>> jemster wrote:
>> > Ok, let me attempt to explain better (if I can..:-))T
>> >
>> > The desktop has the problem. It has had a external hard drive
>> > connected to it for about two years but due to my ignorance and no
>> > instructions...I just connected it to a port on the tower....didn't
>> > know about drag & drop. :-p The laptop is fine...just using it to
>> > yell for help.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23Cm519PDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> Here's another picture of two hard drives:
>> >>
>> >> http://zone.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/tut/Laptop%20vs%20Desktop.png
>> >>
>> >> The one on the left (3.5") is one you would find in a desktop PC (or
>> >> a tower, if it stands upright). The one on the right (2.5") is one
>> >> you would find in a laptop.
>> >>
>> >> If I read the advice correctly, you were advised to remove the hard
>> >> drive from the laptop (Shenan believed there was something wrong
>> >> with it and figured you might as well save the data before it's too
>> >> late) and place it inside an external case like this one:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182145
>> >>
>> >> But Shenan may have reached this conclusion (that your hard drive was
>> >> dying) based on your statement (using the incorrect terminolgy) "I
>> >> pushed the power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after
>> >> a minute." You later indicated you meant the laptop and not the hard
>> >> drive!
>> >>
>> >> This statement:
>> >>
>> >> "Saturday when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon
>> >> as my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and off."
>> >>
>> >> ... indicates a hardware problem to me. And if you don't want to lose
>> >> the stuff on your computer, you should certainly follow Shenan's
>> >> advice (of find someone competent who can do that for you).
>> >>
>> >> You say you have the laptop connected to an external hard drive. But
>> >> this won't help you if you can't run the laptop (if your immediate
>> >> goal is to save all your important data).
>> >>
>> >> Then again, if you had been using a good backup strategy (you never
>> >> did tell us if you did or didn't), then all your data would be on
>> >> that external hard drive. But based on your worried statement, I
>> >> doubt this is the case. :-(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> jemster wrote:
>> >>> Thanks Daave I needed that! :-) Also I was advised to get a case for
>> >>> my external hard drive to use it with my laptop. Why do I need a
>> >>> case?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:OLXxDWPDLHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>>> Ah. :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is what a hard drive looks like:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://rjmcomputersboise.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hardrive2.jpg
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (opened up)
>> >>>> http://learnthat.com/files/2010/03/hard-drive.jpg
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If your PC (personal computer) is a desktop, you can probably call
>> >>>> it a tower. :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The hard drive, by the way, contains data (operating system,
>> >>>> programs, and all your many files like documents, photos, etc.).
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> jemster wrote:
>> >>>>> Power button on the computer. Sorry, I thought it was called the
>> >>>>> hard drive-the tower or whatever.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "thecreator" <thecreator(a)home.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:eGF6W$IDLHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>>> Hi Joni,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Power Button on the computer or Power Button on the External
>> >>>>>> Hard Drive are you talking about?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How old is the computer in question?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> thecreator
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "jemster" <jemster(a)gtcinternet.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:exurF6HDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>>>> I have a Gateway desktop (Win XP Home w/sp3 IE 7) and lately it
>> >>>>>>> has been slowing down painfully slow despite running Avira
>> >>>>>>> anti-virus, Spybot,, PConPoint, doing disk cleanup, defrag, etc.
>> >>>>>>> Last Thursday I turned on the monitor and when I pushed the
>> >>>>>>> power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after a
>> >>>>>>> minute so I kept doing it and each time it would load a little
>> >>>>>>> further before it shut off. It finally stayed on until I
>> >>>>>>> finished with email and shut it down. Friday went thru the same
>> >>>>>>> thing praying all the time it would let me do a system restore.
>> >>>>>>> I was able to do that to a week prior .and thought it would be
>> >>>>>>> ok...ha...doing my own thinking again. Saturday when I pushed
>> >>>>>>> the power button it would shut off as soon as my finger left
>> >>>>>>> the button. I could hear the fan turn on and off. I have so much
>> >>>>>>> stuff on that computer that I sure don't want to lose...oh I
>> >>>>>>> also have had a
>> >>>>>>> external hard drive connected to it. What do I do/try now?
>> >>>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>> Joni
>>
>>
>
>
From: jemster on 16 Jun 2010 18:33
Don't worry Daave....if it's not the power supply then I will go on to the
next thing. I just thought it made the most sense to me and was at least not
terribly expensive (I'm retired)
I won't come TP your house if it's not that :-)



"Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
news:%23Yq0eUUDLHA.4400(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The method suggested by Shenan was to remove the internal hard drive
> from your PC and place it in an external enclosure. This would make it
> an external drive. While in this state, you could copy the data residing
> on it yet once again -- to another hard drive, to a laptop or other
> desktop (actually, to the hard drives that would be inside a laptop or
> desktop) Of course you could alwasy reverse the process! So, for
> instance, if you needed to wipe the hard drive (after you copied the
> data a second time and placed it back inside the tower) to perform a
> Clean Install of Windows XP, all your data will have been saved.
>
> The option I offered allows you to keep the hard drive in the tower and
> still transfer the data on it to another source (e.g., a laptop or
> another desktop or even an external hard drive). This eliminates the
> need to physically remove the internal drive from your tower and place
> it in an external enclosure.
>
> I see from your other post that you were somehow able to copy the data
> to an external hard drive. I hope this was successful and you were able
> to transfer *all* of it.
>
> I was hoping someone else would have chimed in before you ordered the
> power supply. Although this is what I suspect the problem to be, it
> could still be something else!
>
> So now that you have placed the order, let's hope that's what you need!
>
> jemster wrote:
> > OK, it's getting a little clearer, (I think) this would allow
> > transfer of data even tho I can't power up my desktop?? and it is
> > like a hard drive?? Since mine is useless since I neglected to copy
> > any data to it??
> >
> >
> > "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> > news:OSTYyYQDLHA.5784(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Then Shenan's advice is still sound. It would be wise to copy the
> >> data off the drive. Another option (instead of an enclosure) is to
> >> use an adapter like this one:
> >>
> >> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16812161002
> >>
> >> Then determine the specific hardware problem. My guess is you need to
> >> replace the power supply.
> >>
> >> jemster wrote:
> >>> Ok, let me attempt to explain better (if I can..:-))T
> >>>
> >>> The desktop has the problem. It has had a external hard drive
> >>> connected to it for about two years but due to my ignorance and no
> >>> instructions...I just connected it to a port on the tower....didn't
> >>> know about drag & drop. :-p The laptop is fine...just using it to
> >>> yell for help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23Cm519PDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Here's another picture of two hard drives:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://zone.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/tut/Laptop%20vs%20Desktop.png
> >>>>
> >>>> The one on the left (3.5") is one you would find in a desktop PC
> >>>> (or a tower, if it stands upright). The one on the right (2.5") is
> >>>> one you would find in a laptop.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I read the advice correctly, you were advised to remove the hard
> >>>> drive from the laptop (Shenan believed there was something wrong
> >>>> with it and figured you might as well save the data before it's too
> >>>> late) and place it inside an external case like this one:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182145
> >>>>
> >>>> But Shenan may have reached this conclusion (that your hard drive
> >>>> was dying) based on your statement (using the incorrect
> >>>> terminolgy) "I pushed the power button on the hard drive it turned
> >>>> itself off after a minute." You later indicated you meant the
> >>>> laptop and not the hard drive!
> >>>>
> >>>> This statement:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Saturday when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon
> >>>> as my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and
> >>>> off."
> >>>>
> >>>> ... indicates a hardware problem to me. And if you don't want to
> >>>> lose the stuff on your computer, you should certainly follow
> >>>> Shenan's advice (of find someone competent who can do that for
> >>>> you).
> >>>>
> >>>> You say you have the laptop connected to an external hard drive.
> >>>> But this won't help you if you can't run the laptop (if your
> >>>> immediate goal is to save all your important data).
> >>>>
> >>>> Then again, if you had been using a good backup strategy (you never
> >>>> did tell us if you did or didn't), then all your data would be on
> >>>> that external hard drive. But based on your worried statement, I
> >>>> doubt this is the case. :-(
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> jemster wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Daave I needed that! :-) Also I was advised to get a case
> >>>>> for my external hard drive to use it with my laptop. Why do I
> >>>>> need a case?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:OLXxDWPDLHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Ah. :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is what a hard drive looks like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://rjmcomputersboise.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hardrive2.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (opened up)
> >>>>>> http://learnthat.com/files/2010/03/hard-drive.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If your PC (personal computer) is a desktop, you can probably
> >>>>>> call it a tower. :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The hard drive, by the way, contains data (operating system,
> >>>>>> programs, and all your many files like documents, photos, etc.).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> jemster wrote:
> >>>>>>> Power button on the computer. Sorry, I thought it was called the
> >>>>>>> hard drive-the tower or whatever.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "thecreator" <thecreator(a)home.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:eGF6W$IDLHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>> Hi Joni,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Power Button on the computer or Power Button on the
> >>>>>>>> External Hard Drive are you talking about?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How old is the computer in question?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> thecreator
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "jemster" <jemster(a)gtcinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:exurF6HDLHA.1368(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>> I have a Gateway desktop (Win XP Home w/sp3 IE 7) and lately
> >>>>>>>>> it has been slowing down painfully slow despite running Avira
> >>>>>>>>> anti-virus, Spybot,, PConPoint, doing disk cleanup, defrag,
> >>>>>>>>> etc. Last Thursday I turned on the monitor and when I pushed
> >>>>>>>>> the power button on the hard drive it turned itself off after
> >>>>>>>>> a minute so I kept doing it and each time it would load a
> >>>>>>>>> little further before it shut off. It finally stayed on until
> >>>>>>>>> I finished with email and shut it down. Friday went thru the
> >>>>>>>>> same thing praying all the time it would let me do a system
> >>>>>>>>> restore. I was able to do that to a week prior .and thought
> >>>>>>>>> it would be ok...ha...doing my own thinking again. Saturday
> >>>>>>>>> when I pushed the power button it would shut off as soon as
> >>>>>>>>> my finger left the button. I could hear the fan turn on and
> >>>>>>>>> off. I have so much stuff on that computer that I sure don't
> >>>>>>>>> want to lose...oh I also have had a
> >>>>>>>>> external hard drive connected to it. What do I do/try now?
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>> Joni
>
>


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