Heat from heatpipes probably damaged a memory chip.
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From: "nobody >" on 3 Nov 2009 22:11 Zootal wrote: > > Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that tell you > the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. Exceed that and you > run the risk of condensation and corrosion. Condensation on high frequency > high impedance circuits can bring your computer down right now, blammo, and > stay down until it dries. Just putting a finger across some of these traces > will crash your computer. You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally bare traces. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating
From: Zootal on 3 Nov 2009 22:55 "nobody >" <usenetharvested(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:0pSdnTutKMl5bW3XnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d(a)supernews.com... > Zootal wrote: > >> >> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that tell >> you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. Exceed that >> and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion. Condensation on high >> frequency high impedance circuits can bring your computer down right now, >> blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just putting a finger across some >> of these traces will crash your computer. > > You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally > bare traces. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating > Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty traces and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your "conformal coating".
From: "nobody >" on 3 Nov 2009 23:14 Zootal wrote: > "nobody >" <usenetharvested(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:0pSdnTutKMl5bW3XnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d(a)supernews.com... >> Zootal wrote: >> >>> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that tell >>> you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. Exceed that >>> and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion. Condensation on high >>> frequency high impedance circuits can bring your computer down right now, >>> blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just putting a finger across some >>> of these traces will crash your computer. >> You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally >> bare traces. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating >> > > Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic > equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty traces > and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your "conformal > coating". > > Sorry,Zootal... I've been dealing with "real world" printed circuit boards a long time. I might even venture that I was possibly repairing them before you were born. I've repaired marine electronics from sunken boats, portable two-way radios found in sewers, pagers that went swimming in toilets, dispatch consoles that have had the "Pepsi Treatment" (lattes and mochas are worse..but "PT" is the generic term), and radio base stations doused in rat pee for years. I know what can happens from "exposure". Yes, early PC mobos were "bare-assed traces", but any reasonable mobo made in the last 10-15 years has some form of coating. Your "finger touch" doesn't fly.
From: david on 4 Nov 2009 06:15 On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:14:33 -0800, nobody > rearranged some electrons to say: > Zootal wrote: >> "nobody >" <usenetharvested(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> news:0pSdnTutKMl5bW3XnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d(a)supernews.com... >>> Zootal wrote: >>> >>>> Mother boards and related equipment have environmental ratings that >>>> tell you the maximum humidity and temperature they will tolerate. >>>> Exceed that and you run the risk of condensation and corrosion. >>>> Condensation on high frequency high impedance circuits can bring your >>>> computer down right now, blammo, and stay down until it dries. Just >>>> putting a finger across some of these traces will crash your >>>> computer. >>> You must be dealing with some awfully crappy motherboards with totally >>> bare traces. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating >>> >>> >> Out there in the real world, it happens. Not every piece of electronic >> equipment is a nice neat color coordinated motherboard with pretty >> traces and an aesthetically pleasing design, not to mention your >> "conformal coating". >> >> >> > Sorry,Zootal... I've been dealing with "real world" printed circuit > boards a long time. I might even venture that I was possibly repairing > them before you were born. > > I've repaired marine electronics from sunken boats, portable two-way > radios found in sewers, pagers that went swimming in toilets, dispatch > consoles that have had the "Pepsi Treatment" (lattes and mochas are > worse..but "PT" is the generic term), and radio base stations doused in > rat pee for years. > > I know what can happens from "exposure". > > Yes, early PC mobos were "bare-assed traces", but any reasonable mobo > made in the last 10-15 years has some form of coating. Your "finger > touch" doesn't fly. Soldermask is not a conformal coating.
From: GMAN on 4 Nov 2009 10:55
In article <ea080$4aeff753$d53372a9$17713(a)cache4.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, "Skybuck Flying" <BloodyShame(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >"Norman Peelman" <npeelman(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in message >news:4aef6f7d$0$5660$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> Skybuck Flying wrote: >>> "Norman Peelman" <npeelman(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4aee4a70$0$5118$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> Skybuck Flying wrote: >>>>> "Toolpackinmama" <philnblanc(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:hcjjn1$j0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> Skybuck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not so long ago I cleaned the pc-case dust filters while the pc was >>>>>>> running... I decided not to dry the dust filters thoroughly because a >>>>>>> kid on youtube also didn't try them thoroughly... >>>>>> Is this guy for real? Or is this some kind of parody, like SPINALTAP? >>>>> Real, can't find the video of the kid... >>>>> >>>>> But search for antec 1200 and you'll see plenty of people washing their >>>>> dust filters with water ! ;) >>>>> >>>>> Makes ya wonder doesn't it ! ;) :) >>>>> >>>>> Bye, >>>>> Skybuck. >>>> Nothing wrong with that as long as you let them dry out. >>> >>> But then one needs to wait... which is "down time"... and might be >>> unneccessary ? >>> (Also cleaning it dry takes more time and toiletpaper ! ;)) >>> >>> The real question is: >>> >>> What happens if it's slightly wet/moisturish ;) >>> >>> Anybody know ? ;) :) =D >>> >>> Bye, >>> Skybuck ;) =D >>> >>> >> >> What happens if you just run the system without the dust filter on until >> it dries? Would it be so bad? Oh wait, why not get extra dust filters so >> you can rotate them out for cleaning... > >I thought about the idea of extra dust filters... might be a nice idea for >antec in the future ! Why didn't they think of it ! ;) :) Antec sells them as replacements. Go to their online store. > >I would still like to know the answer to my question: > >What happens if the air in the room is moisterish... for example... suppose >I take a shower... and there is this gas burning near the pc... lot's of >gasses being burned and expelled into the air... > >What will the effect of burned gas be on for example the asus motherboard >?!? > >I am beginning to suspect that the asus motherboard in combination with >burned gasses, some moisture and heat... is corroding or so... ?!? > >Bye, > Skybuck. > > |