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From: Johnny on 9 Jun 2010 09:48 I think your idea could work but in case that you had a older version . You will need a bootable disk or diskette that will get you to the console to format it . Backup your data using Dmailer Backup Software and store it on their server. Upgrading your windows doesn't mean that will format your computer because is just an upgrade and even if will do so will be with a lot of bugs . So better you will install a fresh installation of windows xp. Grac wrote: I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB 26-Jul-08 I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB keyboard wouldn't load until after the OS loaded. Fortunately, reinstalling everything is running fairly smoothly.... "N. Miller" wrote: Previous Posts In This Thread: On Friday, July 25, 2008 7:50 PM Grac wrote: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve I have tried to format the hard drive of my old computer using my XP Home Upgrade CD. I've read that this will work. However, when I try it, it states that: Setup cannot continue because there is a newer version on this computer than is on this disk. I'm guessing, of course, that the "newer" version it is speaking of is SP1 and SP2. Can anyone tell me how to get that hard drive formatted? I've tried the boot disks that Microsoft offers, after changing the BIOS to Floppy, of course. (That unfortunately didn't work, possibly due to the fact that the old computer has a newer microsoft keyboard that the boot disks won't recognize.) {After paying almost $10 for 10 floppies! Because no-one carries floppies anymore. This is just to let you know the floppies were brand new that I made the boot disks from, in case that matters.} I've tried using the XP Home Upgrade CD (as mentioned above), after changing the BIOS to cdrom. (I do have my ME disk, if necessary.) On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:21 PM Chet wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve Of great historical significance to all, Grace <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> declared on Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:50:01 -0700: You might find some assistance from Michael Stevens articles: How do I format a NTFS/Fat/Fat32 drive with XP installed? <http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/format_XP.htm> Clean Install Windows XP <http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html> hth -- cfnewsDO(a)NOTmchsi.SPAMcom "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid." - Terry Bradshaw - On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:22 PM LVTravel wrote: In this case, you need to boot with the XP Upgrade CD, go through the setup In this case, you need to boot with the XP Upgrade CD, go through the setup and have it delete the partition where the current installation is and then have it create a new partition and format that. Since the "installation" program that is running sees a newer version of XP it doesn't want to delete a possible working OS. "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:003977EB-21C2-4AAF-BE59-BB320CFFC710(a)microsoft.com... On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:52 PM VanguardLH wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve Grace wrote: Then you didn't navigate correctly through the setup procedure. If you select the partition and format it using the setup program, there won't be any OS for it to detect in that partition. It is because you have NOT formatted the partition that the setup program sees a newer version of the oS in there. You don't run the setup program from within Windows, especially since you would then be trying to format the partition of the OS that you are using to run the setup program. That only works in cartoons and special effects movies. You need to BOOT using the install CD and do the formatting using *it*. On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:48 PM Grac wrote: Hi VanguardLH,I do boot from the cd. This is the way I boot... Hi VanguardLH, I do boot from the cd. This is the way I boot...just to make sure we're on the same page. restart computer, I have the XP Upgrade CD in the cdrom drive. When the black screen with white letters is showing.... boot from cdrom...press any key to boot from cd I press "Enter" It then brings up (what looks like to me) to full program as usual. (I have formatted several hard drives in the past, just not with XP on it.) Thanks for trying to help! "VanguardLH" wrote: On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:52 PM Grac wrote: Sorry, VanguardLH...I was replying to LV Travel. I apologize. Sorry, VanguardLH... I was replying to LV Travel. I apologize. In response to your advice, I can't even get to the correct setup area as far as I can tell. Even when i boot from the XP Upgrade CD...I still get what looks like the entire program booting up. (I.e. I still get the blue screen with me and all my kids icons to select from.) This doesn't seem right to me, but it does sound like my computer is booting from the cd when I "press any key to boot from cd." "VanguardLH" wrote: On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 PM Grac wrote: Thank you, Chet. Thank you, Chet. I have seen Micheal's pages yesterday, but my history did not have it listed. Thank you for directing me here! I think I am going to try the Win98 boot disk. "Chet" wrote: On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:59 PM Grac wrote: Hi LVTravel,Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. Hi LVTravel, Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. I couldn't get it to go through the setup. It stops before any setup can be done and tells me that it can't continue due to the newer version running. I do boot following the computer's instructions to "press any key to boot from CD" I press "Enter"...it then sounds like my computer is booting from my CD, but it still brings up what looks like the normal Windows XP screen with mine and my kids icons. I think I'm going to attempt using the Win98 boot disk and try it that way. Thanks so much. "LVTravel" wrote: On Friday, July 25, 2008 10:02 PM VanguardLH wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Grace wrote: If Windows is loading (and what you mean by the "full program") then you did not boot from the CD. Either you pressed a key too late when prompted after the POST screen, you are using a USB keyboard on a legacy host (so the USB keyboard is not yet recognized), or your BIOS is not configured to boot from the CD device *before* the hard disk device. If you are using a USB keyboard, it requires that you also use a host whose BIOS supports legacy USB devices (i.e., USB keyboard and USB mouse). If it doesn't, that USB device will not be recognized until the USB drivers are loaded by the OS. If the OS has loaded to load the USB driver(s) then it is too late to run anything from the install CD. Plug the keyboard into the PS/2 port for the keyboard (you may need to use a USB-to-PS2 adapter on the keyboard or get a PS/2 keyboard). Or boot into the BIOS and configure its BIOS to support legacy USB devices (but then the USB keyboard is dead so you can't even do the setup in BIOS and will still have to connect the keyboard to the PS/2 port). Because you saw the "press a key to boot from CD" message, it is likely that the BIOS is configured to boot from the CD drive (and hopefully it is configured so the CD/DVD device is listed before the hard disk device in the boot device sequence order in the BIOS). However, because it continue onto loading Windows even after you have hit a key make me think you are using a USB keyboard but your BIOS does not support legacy USB devices or hasn't been enabled to support them. You can hit the keys on your USB keyboard all you want but none of those keypresses will be recognized until the USB drivers are loaded by the OS and that is after the OS has already loaded. On Friday, July 25, 2008 10:06 PM Jim wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:003977EB-21C2-4AAF-BE59-BB320CFFC710(a)microsoft.com... Upgrade from what to what? The best explanation I have is that the CD is not bootable. The computer would then boot from the hard drive. To check this possibility, press Start. Enter cmd in the run box. When you see the dos-like screen, enter: SET. This will display all of the environment variables, and the one you want to look for is the location of the boot drive. If this disk is C, then the cd is not bootable, and you are asking XP to commit suicide, which it will not do. Jim On Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:27 AM Grac wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Thanks for your help. You asked: Upgrade from what to what? I'm using the XP Upgrade CD simply because I do not have the plain XP CD. I have the ME. I upgraded from ME. I've read...over and over again...that I can reformat the hard drive using the XP Upgrade CD only. (Although, I will need the ME CD to verify that I have the right to use it.) Basically, it's my old computer that was running so slow it was driving my whole family crazy. Fortunately, my wonderful son bought me a brand new computer for Mother's day. So, I'm finally getting around to formatting the hard drive on the old computer. I just want to format the hard drive to get rid of everything, then reinstall XP on it. Thank you for telling me how to check to see if the computer is really booting off the CD. I've never needed to do this when I have formatted drives in the past, so I didn't realize that I could check that. I'll check it tomorrow when I'm working on it. I can't believe how long this is taking me. I thought it was a "simple" - format the hard drive and reinstall everything just as I've done in the past. Thanks again for your help! "Jim" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:38 AM Grac wrote: Thank you! I was wondering about the USB keyboard! Thank you! I was wondering about the USB keyboard! We noted when we tried booting from the XP floppies that they keyboard commands weren't taking. (My younger son was helping at this time.) He actually got all the 6 disks through by carefully timing the changing of disks by the light on the floppy drive. It was amazing to watch. However, when he got to the final disk ( I knew this would happen), you have to give it a command from the keyboard and, of course, they keyboard wouldn't give the command. We've actually looked around the house for a non-USB keyboard. We haven't found one yet, but maybe our neighbors might have one we could borrow. (Now, why, oh why, did we get rid of all those keyboards lying around?) Thank you for confirming my suspicion about the USB keyboard and explaining why it isn't working! "VanguardLH" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:56 AM Rich/rerat wrote: Grace,If the current working version of XP is SP2 or SP3. Grace, If the current working version of XP is SP2 or SP3. You need to create a new CD with the XP Upgrade CD plus XP SP2 or SP3 installation file, by Slip Streaming into the files on the upgrade CD. Your Upgrade XP CD, may not contain any service Packs, or just XP SP1. So to use the repair feature, you need to remove all updates, to the so that the PC is running the same version of XP that the Upgrade CD is, or Uninstall XP, to the point of earlier OS that you upgraded from. Instructions on Slip Streaming XP SP2, this can be used to Slip Stream XP SP3: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp As mentioned before, an alternative, would be to Delete, then recreate the C:\ Partition, and reinstall XP fresh, and all other applications that you have installed. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) <message rule> <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:92679177-E3B1-44DD-890F-8664342ADA75(a)microsoft.com... Hi LVTravel, Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. I couldn't get it to go through the setup. It stops before any setup can be done and tells me that it can't continue due to the newer version running. I do boot following the computer's instructions to "press any key to boot from CD" I press "Enter"...it then sounds like my computer is booting from my CD, but it still brings up what looks like the normal Windows XP screen with mine and my kids icons. I think I'm going to attempt using the Win98 boot disk and try it that way. Thanks so much. "LVTravel" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:24 AM Grac wrote: Just wanted to let you know.... Just wanted to let you know.... it was a USB keyboard that was causing the problem. Switched to an old keyboard and it worked perfectly! Thanks for your help! "Chet" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:27 AM Grac wrote: Thank you, thank you, thank you! You were right! Thank you, thank you, thank you! You were right! It was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! Thanks so much!!!! "VanguardLH" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:28 AM Grac wrote: Just wanted you to knowi t was the USB keyboard causing the problems! Just wanted you to knowi t was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! Thanks for your help! "LVTravel" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:32 AM Grac wrote: Hi Rich,I'm definitely going to take a look at the Slipstreaming XP on Hi Rich, I'm definitely going to take a look at the Slipstreaming XP on winsupersite.com. The format is finally working. I'll look at this site for the setup after the formatting is complete. Vanguard figured out the problem... It was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! Thanks for your help! Grace "Rich/rerat" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:35 AM Grac wrote: Just wanted you to know it was the USB keyboard causing the problems! Just wanted you to know it was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! Thank you for telling me how to check to see if the computer is booting from the CD. I'll file that info away for the next time I need it. Thanks for your help! "Jim" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:51 AM Ken Blake, MVP wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:56:53 -0400, "Rich/rerat" <rrr_news(a)isp.com> wrote: No, this isn't correct. She's trying to do a clean installation. When you do a clean installation, it begins by formatting the drive, and it doesn't care at all what SP level is presently installed. Her problem is occurring because she's trying to do the installation from within Windows, rather than booting from the installation CD. That's the wrong way to do it, and leads to the problem she's experiencing. She says below that she is trying to boot from the CD, but ends up booting from the hard drive. Why that's occurring, I'm not sure. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup On Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:36 PM Jim wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Your have found yet another reason that causes problems... Perhaps the BIOS on your computer does not recognize a USB keyboard, but to add further confusion, XP does. Jim On Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:21 PM VanguardLH wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Grace wrote: On motherboards that supply both USB and PS/2 ports, I see no reason to waste a USB port on the keyboard since a PS/2 port works just as well for a keyboard. Also, since I can connect to the PS/2 port for the keyboard, I free up a USB port for another USB device (printer, scanner, camera, etc.). Keyboards bought today might be USB-only keyboard. Basically they're too stingy to include the USB-to-PS2 adapter that comes with other PS2/USB keyboards. On Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:27 PM N. Miller wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:06:37 -0500, Jim wrote: When I tried to upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP, the upgrade CD booted. The problem I encountered is that the upgrade disk would not recognize an OEM recovery CD as a valid upgrade path. I had to run the HP Recovery disks to reinstall Windows Me (for some reason, after upgrading the system BIOS, Windows Me would hang at the "Finding new hardware" pop-up window), and run the upgrade CD from within a working installation of Windows Me. I am sure that a retail box install disk for Windows Me would be recognized. Given the amount of time Grace took to make things work, I just wonder, considering that she wanted to run a clean install, if just reloading Windows Me, and running the upgrade from within Windows Me wouldn't have been faster. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum On Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 PM Chet wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Of great historical significance to all, Grace <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> declared on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:24:00 -0700: Glad to hear you got it sorted out. Hope you have no further problems. -- cfnewsDO(a)NOTmchsi.SPAMcom "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid." - Terry Bradshaw - On Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:10 PM LVTravel wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer Glad you got it working properly. On Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:13 PM LVTravel wrote: Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer V..LH, good pickup on this. Thanks also. On Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:11 PM Grac wrote: Yes, my new computer came with a USB keyboard also. Yes, my new computer came with a USB keyboard also. With my new computer I have plenty of USB ports to use...along with tons of others, but that old computer...I only had 2. I will probably leave the PS/2 keyboard on that computer. (We did manage to find one in the house without having to run next door.) Thanks again! "VanguardLH" wrote: On Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:16 PM Grac wrote: I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB keyboard wouldn't load until after the OS loaded. Fortunately, reinstalling everything is running fairly smoothly.... "N. Miller" wrote: Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice Server Side Processing in ADO.NET/WCF Data Services http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/db179aed-47fa-4f86-a4bf-4f6f92a76585/server-side-processing-in.aspx
From: No Mo on 9 Jun 2010 10:02 Hoopleheaded Eggheader! You think Grac will be back searching for answers from a July 2008 post, especially since you changed the subject? <Johnny Boy> wrote in message news:2010699486wineasycom(a)yahoo.com... :I think your idea could work but in case that you had a older version . : You will need a bootable disk or diskette that will get you to the console to format it . : Backup your data using Dmailer Backup Software and store it on their server. : Upgrading your windows doesn't mean that will format your computer because is just an upgrade and even if will do so will be with a lot of bugs . : So better you will install a fresh installation of windows xp. : : : : Grac wrote: : : I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB : 26-Jul-08 : : I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB : keyboard wouldn't load until after the OS loaded. : : Fortunately, reinstalling everything is running fairly smoothly.... : : "N. Miller" wrote: : : Previous Posts In This Thread: : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 7:50 PM : Grac wrote: : : Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve : I have tried to format the hard drive of my old computer using my XP Home : Upgrade CD. I've read that this will work. However, when I try it, it : states that: : : Setup cannot continue because there is a newer version on this computer than : is on this disk. : : I'm guessing, of course, that the "newer" version it is speaking of is SP1 : and SP2. : : Can anyone tell me how to get that hard drive formatted? I've tried the : boot disks that Microsoft offers, after changing the BIOS to Floppy, of : course. : (That unfortunately didn't work, possibly due to the fact that the old : computer : has a newer microsoft keyboard that the boot disks won't recognize.) : {After : paying almost $10 for 10 floppies! Because no-one carries floppies : anymore. : This is just to let you know the floppies were brand new that I made : the boot : disks from, in case that matters.} : : I've tried using the XP Home Upgrade CD (as mentioned above), after changing : the BIOS to cdrom. : : (I do have my ME disk, if necessary.) : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:21 PM : Chet wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve : Of great historical significance to all, Grace : <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> declared on Fri, 25 Jul 2008 : 16:50:01 -0700: : : : You might find some assistance from Michael Stevens articles: : : How do I format a NTFS/Fat/Fat32 drive with XP installed? : <http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/format_XP.htm> : : Clean Install Windows XP : <http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html> : : hth : -- : cfnewsDO(a)NOTmchsi.SPAMcom : "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid." : - Terry Bradshaw - : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:22 PM : LVTravel wrote: : : In this case, you need to boot with the XP Upgrade CD, go through the setup : In this case, you need to boot with the XP Upgrade CD, go through the setup : and have it delete the partition where the current installation is and then : have it create a new partition and format that. : : Since the "installation" program that is running sees a newer version of XP : it doesn't want to delete a possible working OS. : : : "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message : news:003977EB-21C2-4AAF-BE59-BB320CFFC710(a)microsoft.com... : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 8:52 PM : VanguardLH wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve : Grace wrote: : : : Then you didn't navigate correctly through the setup procedure. If you : select the partition and format it using the setup program, there won't : be any OS for it to detect in that partition. It is because you have : NOT formatted the partition that the setup program sees a newer version : of the oS in there. : : You don't run the setup program from within Windows, especially since : you would then be trying to format the partition of the OS that you are : using to run the setup program. That only works in cartoons and special : effects movies. You need to BOOT using the install CD and do the : formatting using *it*. : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:48 PM : Grac wrote: : : Hi VanguardLH,I do boot from the cd. This is the way I boot... : Hi VanguardLH, : : I do boot from the cd. This is the way I boot...just to make sure we're on : the same page. : : restart computer, I have the XP Upgrade CD in the cdrom drive. When the : black screen with white letters is showing.... : : boot from cdrom...press any key to boot from cd : : I press "Enter" : : It then brings up (what looks like to me) to full program as usual. : : (I have formatted several hard drives in the past, just not with XP on it.) : : Thanks for trying to help! : : "VanguardLH" wrote: : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:52 PM : Grac wrote: : : Sorry, VanguardLH...I was replying to LV Travel. I apologize. : Sorry, VanguardLH... : I was replying to LV Travel. I apologize. : : In response to your advice, I can't even get to the correct setup area as : far as I can tell. : : Even when i boot from the XP Upgrade CD...I still get what looks like the : entire program booting up. (I.e. I still get the blue screen with me and : all my kids icons to select from.) This doesn't seem right to me, but it : does sound like my computer is booting from the cd when I "press any key to : boot from cd." : : : "VanguardLH" wrote: : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:56 PM : Grac wrote: : : Thank you, Chet. : Thank you, Chet. I have seen Micheal's pages yesterday, but my history did : not have it listed. Thank you for directing me here! I think I am going to : try the Win98 boot disk. : : "Chet" wrote: : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 9:59 PM : Grac wrote: : : Hi LVTravel,Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. : Hi LVTravel, : : Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. I couldn't get : it to go through the setup. It stops before any setup can be done and tells : me that it can't continue due to the newer version running. : : I do boot following the computer's instructions to "press any key to boot : from CD" : : I press "Enter"...it then sounds like my computer is booting from my CD, but : it still brings up what looks like the normal Windows XP screen with mine and : my kids icons. : : I think I'm going to attempt using the Win98 boot disk and try it that way. : : Thanks so much. : : "LVTravel" wrote: : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 10:02 PM : VanguardLH wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Grace wrote: : : : If Windows is loading (and what you mean by the "full program") then you : did not boot from the CD. Either you pressed a key too late when : prompted after the POST screen, you are using a USB keyboard on a legacy : host (so the USB keyboard is not yet recognized), or your BIOS is not : configured to boot from the CD device *before* the hard disk device. : : If you are using a USB keyboard, it requires that you also use a host : whose BIOS supports legacy USB devices (i.e., USB keyboard and USB : mouse). If it doesn't, that USB device will not be recognized until the : USB drivers are loaded by the OS. If the OS has loaded to load the USB : driver(s) then it is too late to run anything from the install CD. Plug : the keyboard into the PS/2 port for the keyboard (you may need to use a : USB-to-PS2 adapter on the keyboard or get a PS/2 keyboard). Or boot : into the BIOS and configure its BIOS to support legacy USB devices (but : then the USB keyboard is dead so you can't even do the setup in BIOS and : will still have to connect the keyboard to the PS/2 port). : : Because you saw the "press a key to boot from CD" message, it is likely : that the BIOS is configured to boot from the CD drive (and hopefully it : is configured so the CD/DVD device is listed before the hard disk device : in the boot device sequence order in the BIOS). However, because it : continue onto loading Windows even after you have hit a key make me : think you are using a USB keyboard but your BIOS does not support legacy : USB devices or hasn't been enabled to support them. You can hit the : keys on your USB keyboard all you want but none of those keypresses will : be recognized until the USB drivers are loaded by the OS and that is : after the OS has already loaded. : : On Friday, July 25, 2008 10:06 PM : Jim wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve : "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message : news:003977EB-21C2-4AAF-BE59-BB320CFFC710(a)microsoft.com... : Upgrade from what to what? : : The best explanation I have is that the CD is not bootable. The computer : would then boot from the hard drive. : To check this possibility, press Start. Enter cmd in the run box. When you : see the dos-like screen, enter: : SET. : : This will display all of the environment variables, and the one you want to : look for is the location of the boot drive. : If this disk is C, then the cd is not bootable, and you are asking XP to : commit suicide, which it will not do. : Jim : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:27 AM : Grac wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Thanks for your help. : : You asked: Upgrade from what to what? : I'm using the XP Upgrade CD simply because I do not have the plain XP : CD. I have the ME. I upgraded from ME. I've read...over and over : again...that I can reformat the hard drive using the XP Upgrade CD only. : (Although, I will need the ME CD to verify that I have the right to use it.) : : Basically, it's my old computer that was running so slow it was driving my : whole family crazy. Fortunately, my wonderful son bought me a brand new : computer for Mother's day. So, I'm finally getting around to formatting the : hard drive on the old computer. I just want to format the hard drive to get : rid of everything, then reinstall XP on it. : : Thank you for telling me how to check to see if the computer is really : booting off the CD. I've never needed to do this when I have formatted : drives in the past, so I didn't realize that I could check that. I'll check : it tomorrow when I'm working on it. : : I can't believe how long this is taking me. I thought it was a "simple" - : format the hard drive and reinstall everything just as I've done in the past. : : Thanks again for your help! : : : "Jim" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:38 AM : Grac wrote: : : Thank you! I was wondering about the USB keyboard! : Thank you! I was wondering about the USB keyboard! We noted when we tried : booting from the XP floppies that they keyboard commands weren't taking. (My : younger son was helping at this time.) He actually got all the 6 disks : through by carefully timing the changing of disks by the light on the floppy : drive. It was amazing to watch. However, when he got to the final disk ( I : knew this would happen), you have to give it a command from the keyboard and, : of course, they keyboard wouldn't give the command. : : We've actually looked around the house for a non-USB keyboard. We haven't : found one yet, but maybe our neighbors might have one we could borrow. (Now, : why, oh why, did we get rid of all those keyboards lying around?) : : Thank you for confirming my suspicion about the USB keyboard and explaining : why it isn't working! : "VanguardLH" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:56 AM : Rich/rerat wrote: : : Grace,If the current working version of XP is SP2 or SP3. : Grace, : If the current working version of XP is SP2 or SP3. You need to create a new : CD with the XP Upgrade CD plus XP SP2 or SP3 installation file, by Slip : Streaming into the files on the upgrade CD. : : Your Upgrade XP CD, may not contain any service Packs, or just XP SP1. So to : use the repair feature, you need to remove all updates, to the so that the : PC is running the same version of XP that the Upgrade CD is, or Uninstall : XP, to the point of earlier OS that you upgraded from. : : Instructions on Slip Streaming XP SP2, this can be used to Slip Stream XP : SP3: : http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp : : As mentioned before, an alternative, would be to Delete, then recreate the : C:\ Partition, and reinstall XP fresh, and all other applications that you : have installed. : : -- : Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com : Rich/rerat (RRR News) <message rule> : <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> : : : "Grace" <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message : news:92679177-E3B1-44DD-890F-8664342ADA75(a)microsoft.com... : Hi LVTravel, : : Thank you for your help. I did boot with the XP Upgrade CD. I couldn't get : it to go through the setup. It stops before any setup can be done and tells : me that it can't continue due to the newer version running. : : I do boot following the computer's instructions to "press any key to boot : from CD" : : I press "Enter"...it then sounds like my computer is booting from my CD, but : it still brings up what looks like the normal Windows XP screen with mine : and : my kids icons. : : I think I'm going to attempt using the Win98 boot disk and try it that way. : : Thanks so much. : : "LVTravel" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:24 AM : Grac wrote: : : Just wanted to let you know.... : Just wanted to let you know.... : : it was a USB keyboard that was causing the problem. Switched to an old : keyboard and it worked perfectly! : : Thanks for your help! : : "Chet" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:27 AM : Grac wrote: : : Thank you, thank you, thank you! You were right! : Thank you, thank you, thank you! You were right! It was the USB keyboard : causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and : Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) : : Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! : : Thanks so much!!!! : : : "VanguardLH" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:28 AM : Grac wrote: : : Just wanted you to knowi t was the USB keyboard causing the problems! : Just wanted you to knowi t was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, : I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to : switching the keyboard.) : : Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! : : Thanks for your help! : : "LVTravel" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:32 AM : Grac wrote: : : Hi Rich,I'm definitely going to take a look at the Slipstreaming XP on : Hi Rich, : : I'm definitely going to take a look at the Slipstreaming XP on : winsupersite.com. The format is finally working. I'll look at this site for : the setup after the formatting is complete. : : Vanguard figured out the problem... : : It was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, I did uninstall SP2, : Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to switching the keyboard.) : : Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! : : Thanks for your help! : : Grace : : : "Rich/rerat" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:35 AM : Grac wrote: : : Just wanted you to know it was the USB keyboard causing the problems! : Just wanted you to know it was the USB keyboard causing the problems! (Well, : I did uninstall SP2, Internet Explorer, and Windows Media player prior to : switching the keyboard.) : : Switched keyboard this morning and it worked perfectly!!!! : : Thank you for telling me how to check to see if the computer is booting from : the CD. I'll file that info away for the next time I need it. : : Thanks for your help! : : : "Jim" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:51 AM : Ken Blake, MVP wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:56:53 -0400, "Rich/rerat" <rrr_news(a)isp.com> : wrote: : : : : No, this isn't correct. She's trying to do a clean installation. When : you do a clean installation, it begins by formatting the drive, and it : doesn't care at all what SP level is presently installed. : : Her problem is occurring because she's trying to do the installation : from within Windows, rather than booting from the installation CD. : That's the wrong way to do it, and leads to the problem she's : experiencing. : : She says below that she is trying to boot from the CD, but ends up : booting from the hard drive. Why that's occurring, I'm not sure. : : : : -- : Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience : Please Reply to the Newsgroup : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:36 PM : Jim wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Your have found yet another reason that causes problems... Perhaps the BIOS : on your computer does not recognize a USB keyboard, but to add further : confusion, XP does. : Jim : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:21 PM : VanguardLH wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Grace wrote: : : : On motherboards that supply both USB and PS/2 ports, I see no reason to : waste a USB port on the keyboard since a PS/2 port works just as well : for a keyboard. Also, since I can connect to the PS/2 port for the : keyboard, I free up a USB port for another USB device (printer, scanner, : camera, etc.). : : Keyboards bought today might be USB-only keyboard. Basically they're : too stingy to include the USB-to-PS2 adapter that comes with other : PS2/USB keyboards. : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:27 PM : N. Miller wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer" ve : On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:06:37 -0500, Jim wrote: : : : When I tried to upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP, the upgrade CD booted. The : problem I encountered is that the upgrade disk would not recognize an OEM : recovery CD as a valid upgrade path. I had to run the HP Recovery disks to : reinstall Windows Me (for some reason, after upgrading the system BIOS, : Windows Me would hang at the "Finding new hardware" pop-up window), and run : the upgrade CD from within a working installation of Windows Me. I am sure : that a retail box install disk for Windows Me would be recognized. : : Given the amount of time Grace took to make things work, I just wonder, : considering that she wanted to run a clean install, if just reloading : Windows Me, and running the upgrade from within Windows Me wouldn't have : been faster. : : -- : Norman : ~Oh Lord, why have you come : ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 PM : Chet wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Of great historical significance to all, Grace : <Grace(a)discussions.microsoft.com> declared on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 : 08:24:00 -0700: : : : Glad to hear you got it sorted out. Hope you have no further problems. : : -- : cfnewsDO(a)NOTmchsi.SPAMcom : "I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid." : - Terry Bradshaw - : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:10 PM : LVTravel wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : Glad you got it working properly. : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:13 PM : LVTravel wrote: : : Re: Format hard drive with XP upgrade won't work because of "newer : V..LH, good pickup on this. Thanks also. : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:11 PM : Grac wrote: : : Yes, my new computer came with a USB keyboard also. : Yes, my new computer came with a USB keyboard also. With my new computer I : have plenty of USB ports to use...along with tons of others, but that old : computer...I only had 2. I will probably leave the PS/2 keyboard on that : computer. (We did manage to find one in the house without having to run next : door.) : : Thanks again! : : "VanguardLH" wrote: : : On Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:16 PM : Grac wrote: : : I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB : I was going to try the ME next, but I'm so glad that I found out that the USB : keyboard wouldn't load until after the OS loaded. : : Fortunately, reinstalling everything is running fairly smoothly.... : : "N. Miller" wrote: : : : Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice : Server Side Processing in ADO.NET/WCF Data Services : http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/db179aed-47fa-4f86-a4bf-4f6f92a76585/server-side-processing-in.aspx
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