Help! Computer partial freezes - Lateral thinking needed
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From: Bruce on 21 Apr 2010 06:33 On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:33:44 +0100, John Rumm <see.my.signature(a)nowhere.null> wrote: > >If so it sounds like a problem I had with Firefox after an update from >3.6. It was getting resource hungry - swallowing 50% CPU for no apparent >reason, and on occasion - would seem to cause a freeze like you describe >- especially when trying to resize or move a window. > >After a few days of irritation the problem went away! My experience also. I changed to Chromium - identical in all respects to Google Chrome but it doesn't report your browsing habits to Google.
From: Roger Mills on 21 Apr 2010 06:53 In an earlier contribution to this discussion, John Rumm <see.my.signature(a)nowhere.null> wrote: > Roger Mills wrote: > > >> Anyone come across anything like this, or got any ideas? > > Yes, recently... > > Something to try when it next "freezes".... > > Does ALT + Tab escape from the freeze? And what about CTRL+ALT+DEL > (i.e. opening task manager)? > ALT+Tab cycles round the open applications, but none of them - except Mailwasher - will do anything, or even close down - they just go into Not Responding mode. If task manager is already running when the freeze happens, it carries on - showing chan ging amounts of CPU time used by each task. If it *isn't* already running, Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't start it (and no other applications will start, either) > If so it sounds like a problem I had with Firefox after an update from > 3.6. It was getting resource hungry - swallowing 50% CPU for no > apparent reason, and on occasion - would seem to cause a freeze like > you describe - especially when trying to resize or move a window. > > After a few days of irritation the problem went away! The only > significant event I can correlate with it was a message recently on > starting FF warning that the Java Deployment Toolkit had been disabled > for security or stability reasons. Since then it s been fine. Looking > at the specific reasons for the block list entry of that[1] it does > not seem to be related to the problem I was having - so may be > co-incidence. > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584 > I get a similar problem with Firefox - which often used 90+ % of CPU time, but I don't think that's the cause of the freezes - which happen even if Firefox isn't running. [I recently updated to v 3.6.3 (after the freezes started happening) in the hope that it reduce the amount of CPU time used - but it hasn't!] -- Cheers, Roger _______ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
From: Roger Mills on 21 Apr 2010 07:00 In an earlier contribution to this discussion, John Rumm <see.my.signature(a)nowhere.null> wrote: > > Check there are no services that have been installed and set to > autostart as well. (Right click My Computer and select "Manage", then > drill down to the services list). > Thanks. I've got the list open at the moment, but don't really know what I'm looking for. I can't see any that are *obviously* associated with the Canon printer. -- Cheers, Roger _______ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
From: larkim on 21 Apr 2010 09:45 On Apr 21, 11:53 am, "Roger Mills" <watt.ty...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > In an earlier contribution to this discussion, John Rumm<see.my.signat...(a)nowhere.null> wrote: > > Roger Mills wrote: > > >> Anyone come across anything like this, or got any ideas? > > > Yes, recently... > > > Something to try when it next "freezes".... > > > Does ALT + Tab escape from the freeze? And what about CTRL+ALT+DEL > > (i.e. opening task manager)? > > ALT+Tab cycles round the open applications, but none of them - except > Mailwasher - will do anything, or even close down - they just go into Not > Responding mode. > > If task manager is already running when the freeze happens, it carries on - > showing chan ging amounts of CPU time used by each task. If it *isn't* > already running, Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't start it (and no other applications > will start, either) > > > If so it sounds like a problem I had with Firefox after an update from > > 3.6. It was getting resource hungry - swallowing 50% CPU for no > > apparent reason, and on occasion - would seem to cause a freeze like > > you describe - especially when trying to resize or move a window. > > > After a few days of irritation the problem went away! The only > > significant event I can correlate with it was a message recently on > > starting FF warning that the Java Deployment Toolkit had been disabled > > for security or stability reasons. Since then it s been fine. Looking > > at the specific reasons for the block list entry of that[1] it does > > not seem to be related to the problem I was having - so may be > > co-incidence. > > > [1]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558584 > > I get a similar problem with Firefox - which often used 90+ % of CPU time, > but I don't think that's the cause of the freezes - which happen even if > Firefox isn't running. [I recently updated to v 3.6.3 (after the freezes > started happening) in the hope that it reduce the amount of CPU time used - > but it hasn't!] > -- > Cheers, > Roger > _______ > Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom > checked. I don't think enough people have suggested removing AVG as a potential option. I used to be an AVG fan, but I've had problems on my PC, my fathers and my father-in-law's PCs and all of them were resolved the minute I cleaned off AVG. For a test period (providing you are careful) you could just uninstall AVG and run without an AV scanner - see if that makes a difference. Alternatively, just uninstall AVG, reboot, download and install Avast (or MS Securuity Essentials?) for free and see if the same problems persist. AV would certainly by my first thought. Matt
From: John Whitworth on 21 Apr 2010 15:12
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:83847pFg95U1(a)mid.individual.net... > In an earlier contribution to this discussion, John Rumm > <see.my.signature(a)nowhere.null> wrote: >> >> Check there are no services that have been installed and set to >> autostart as well. (Right click My Computer and select "Manage", then >> drill down to the services list). >> > > Thanks. I've got the list open at the moment, but don't really know what > I'm looking for. I can't see any that are *obviously* associated with the > Canon printer. > -- Have you tried msconfig, to remove any programs that may be kicking in at startup? Start - Run - msconfig. Then select the Startup tab, and uncheck anything that looks suspicious. Hell - untick everything, see if the problem goes away. If it does, selectively re-introduce things. JW |