From: Arfa Daily on
Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've got
in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, you've
never got the one you want, when you most need it ...

Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a JVC
midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything they've ever
made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the tuner display are
both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a simple rail failure. Help
me to make just a little money this week, someone, please ? :-(

Arfa

From: Meat Plow on
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ǝʇoɹʍ:

> Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've
> got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time,
> you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ...
>
> Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a
> JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything
> they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the
> tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a
> simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week,
> someone, please ? :-(
>


LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets
full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus
others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration.
I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff
that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst schematic-wise.
From: Dave Platt on
In article <iyORn.58312$yA.26524(a)hurricane>,
Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've got
>in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, you've
>never got the one you want, when you most need it ...

Not a new problem. As Gandalf said about Barliman Butterbur the
innkeeper, "His memory is like a lumber room - something wanted,
always buried."


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From: Cydrome Leader on
Meat Plow <mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ??o??:
>
>> Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've
>> got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time,
>> you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ...
>>
>> Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a
>> JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything
>> they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the
>> tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a
>> simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week,
>> someone, please ? :-(
>>
>
>
> LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets
> full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus
> others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration.
> I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff
> that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst schematic-wise.

ha, gold star rice cooker.

personally, I can't stand the schematics used in appliances. They still
include them as stickers on air conditioners and refrigerators.

they look weird and harder to follow than any schematic as used in
electronics. Is there any sort of standard for them at all?

In the electronics world, the only big difference between a schematic from
europe, the US or japan is eurpeans seem to like rectangles for resistors,
over the zig zag shape.
From: Arfa Daily on


"Cydrome Leader" <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in message
news:hvb709$pcr$2(a)reader1.panix.com...
> Meat Plow <mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ??o??:
>>
>>> Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've
>>> got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time,
>>> you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ...
>>>
>>> Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a
>>> JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything
>>> they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the
>>> tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a
>>> simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week,
>>> someone, please ? :-(
>>>
>>
>>
>> LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets
>> full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus
>> others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration.
>> I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff
>> that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst
>> schematic-wise.
>
> ha, gold star rice cooker.
>
> personally, I can't stand the schematics used in appliances. They still
> include them as stickers on air conditioners and refrigerators.
>
> they look weird and harder to follow than any schematic as used in
> electronics. Is there any sort of standard for them at all?
>
> In the electronics world, the only big difference between a schematic from
> europe, the US or japan is eurpeans seem to like rectangles for resistors,
> over the zig zag shape.

They 'standardised' on this some years back, but there are still many of us
who prefer the 'old-style' symbols, finding them more readily identifiable
for function. When scribbling schematics down, I still use zig-zag resistor
symbols, and am too long in the tooth now, to ever change. And as for the
standardised logic symbols, I hate them too. My NAND gates still look like
NAND gates, and I ain't gonna be changing that any time soon, either !

Interestingly, RadCom, the UK ham radio magazine of the Radio Society of
Great Britain, still favours the zig-zag resistor and old-style logic
symbols, and recently defended this position against someone who wrote a
letter protesting that they were out of date, and should start using the new
symbols. It was quite gratifying to see that they were not prepared to just
roll over on this one ...

All of which doesn't help one little bit with my JVC problem, which has been
resolved now, after some more tests using a service manual for a similar
model that appears to use the same tuner board, by declaring the item BER.
See my new thread in this regard, about PAT testing.

Arfa