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From: Arfa Daily on 15 Jun 2010 13:15 Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ... Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week, someone, please ? :-( Arfa
From: Meat Plow on 15 Jun 2010 14:07 On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ǝʇoɹʍ: > Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've > got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, > you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ... > > Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a > JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything > they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the > tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a > simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week, > someone, please ? :-( > LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration. I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst schematic-wise.
From: Dave Platt on 15 Jun 2010 14:21 In article <iyORn.58312$yA.26524(a)hurricane>, Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've got >in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, you've >never got the one you want, when you most need it ... Not a new problem. As Gandalf said about Barliman Butterbur the innkeeper, "His memory is like a lumber room - something wanted, always buried." -- Dave Platt <dplatt(a)radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
From: Cydrome Leader on 16 Jun 2010 15:00 Meat Plow <mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ??o??: > >> Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've >> got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, >> you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ... >> >> Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a >> JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything >> they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the >> tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a >> simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week, >> someone, please ? :-( >> > > > LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets > full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus > others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration. > I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff > that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst schematic-wise. ha, gold star rice cooker. personally, I can't stand the schematics used in appliances. They still include them as stickers on air conditioners and refrigerators. they look weird and harder to follow than any schematic as used in electronics. Is there any sort of standard for them at all? In the electronics world, the only big difference between a schematic from europe, the US or japan is eurpeans seem to like rectangles for resistors, over the zig zag shape.
From: Arfa Daily on 16 Jun 2010 19:45
"Cydrome Leader" <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in message news:hvb709$pcr$2(a)reader1.panix.com... > Meat Plow <mhywatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:15:11 +0100, Arfa Daily ??o??: >> >>> Why is it that no matter how many of a manufacturer's schematics you've >>> got in the filing cabinet and on CD, going back to the dawn of time, >>> you've never got the one you want, when you most need it ... >>> >>> Has anyone by any chance, got a service manual copy or schematics for a >>> JVC midi hifi system CA-E37 BK. I've got JVC manuals for everything >>> they've ever made, except of course for this one. The tuner, and the >>> tuner display are both completely dead. If I'm lucky, it could be a >>> simple rail failure. Help me to make just a little money this week, >>> someone, please ? :-( >>> >> >> >> LOL no schematic here but remembering back to shelves and filing cabinets >> full of Sam's and other factory prints for Pana, Tech, JVC, GE, plus >> others BEFORE availability on disc I totally understand the frustration. >> I even had schematics for Gold Star rice cookers for f's sake! The stuff >> that came from Korea Tatung/Samsung/Goldstar was the worst >> schematic-wise. > > ha, gold star rice cooker. > > personally, I can't stand the schematics used in appliances. They still > include them as stickers on air conditioners and refrigerators. > > they look weird and harder to follow than any schematic as used in > electronics. Is there any sort of standard for them at all? > > In the electronics world, the only big difference between a schematic from > europe, the US or japan is eurpeans seem to like rectangles for resistors, > over the zig zag shape. They 'standardised' on this some years back, but there are still many of us who prefer the 'old-style' symbols, finding them more readily identifiable for function. When scribbling schematics down, I still use zig-zag resistor symbols, and am too long in the tooth now, to ever change. And as for the standardised logic symbols, I hate them too. My NAND gates still look like NAND gates, and I ain't gonna be changing that any time soon, either ! Interestingly, RadCom, the UK ham radio magazine of the Radio Society of Great Britain, still favours the zig-zag resistor and old-style logic symbols, and recently defended this position against someone who wrote a letter protesting that they were out of date, and should start using the new symbols. It was quite gratifying to see that they were not prepared to just roll over on this one ... All of which doesn't help one little bit with my JVC problem, which has been resolved now, after some more tests using a service manual for a similar model that appears to use the same tuner board, by declaring the item BER. See my new thread in this regard, about PAT testing. Arfa |