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From: Bill on 30 May 2010 00:30 Hey Bruce, What's the word regarding the future of the OE NG when MS pulls the plug on its msnews server? Does MS intend to issue a rmgroup across the entire Usenet to bag all the Microsoft.Public.* NG's? Bill
From: Bruce Hagen on 30 May 2010 00:40 MS is not going to do anything to save current NGs AFAIK. Some servers may keep them. Google will have posts for years. As far as asking questions about OE, this is the place to be getting used to. XP - Networking, Mail And Getting Online Forum http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Bill" <billstanton(a)psln.com> wrote in message news:OnLbED7$KHA.420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hey Bruce, > What's the word regarding the future of the > OE NG when MS pulls the plug on its > msnews server? Does MS intend to issue > a rmgroup across the entire Usenet to > bag all the Microsoft.Public.* NG's? > Bill >
From: VanguardLH on 30 May 2010 00:47 Bill wrote: > What's the word regarding the future of the OE NG when MS pulls the > plug on its msnews server? Does MS intend to issue a rmgroup across > the entire Usenet to bag all the Microsoft.Public.* NG's? No, I'm not Bruce. Giganews says it will continue carrying the microsoft.* newsgroups. Google Groups is unlikely to drop them. My NSP (Albasani) says they will ignore any 'rmgroup' commands issued by Julien Elie or any other self-appointed egotistical Usenet admin. Microsoft is dropping their NNTP server (and thereby any peering to it). Microsoft is not the Usenet, a worldwide mesh network of NNTP servers over which Microsoft has no control (and partially the reason why they are retreating to web-based forums). So you will lose the availability of Microsoft's NNTP server to get at their pretend forums (aka Communities) via their webnews-for-dummies gateway. Start looking around for another NSP since they are likely to continue carrying the microsoft.* newsgroups.
From: Bill on 30 May 2010 01:04 I'm currently doing that now with a NNTP server other than msnews. Hopefully, MS will keep its hands off of the existing NGs. Most of the online forums I've tried don't fair very well against OE's news reader, both from the point of view of navigation and watched thread alerts. Bill "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:htsqki$s19$1(a)news.albasani.net... > Bill wrote: > >> What's the word regarding the future of the OE NG when MS pulls the >> plug on its msnews server? Does MS intend to issue a rmgroup across >> the entire Usenet to bag all the Microsoft.Public.* NG's? > > No, I'm not Bruce. > > Giganews says it will continue carrying the microsoft.* newsgroups. > Google Groups is unlikely to drop them. My NSP (Albasani) says they > will ignore any 'rmgroup' commands issued by Julien Elie or any other > self-appointed egotistical Usenet admin. > > Microsoft is dropping their NNTP server (and thereby any peering to it). > Microsoft is not the Usenet, a worldwide mesh network of NNTP servers > over which Microsoft has no control (and partially the reason why they > are retreating to web-based forums). So you will lose the availability > of Microsoft's NNTP server to get at their pretend forums (aka > Communities) via their webnews-for-dummies gateway. Start looking > around for another NSP since they are likely to continue carrying the > microsoft.* newsgroups.
From: VanguardLH on 30 May 2010 13:53
Bill wrote: > Thanks for the clarifications. We'll all have to wait for awhile to see > how things pan out on the non-MS NNTP servers. Hopefully, > Earthlink hasn't been peering from Microsoft's server. You could probably ask them as to what are their intentions regarding Microsoft's scrambling away from Usenet. Find out from them if they will continue carrying the microsoft.public.* newsgroups and if they currently peer from Microsoft's NNTP server. I wouldn't think that they would hide their intentions. One user of Giganews wanted to know, was suggested that he actually ask Giganews, and reported back that Giganews stated they will continue carrying the microsoft.* groups. I doubt Google gives a gnat's fart about Microsoft leaving Usenet other than of having to change their peering relationships (if they peered from Microsoft). My NSP says they will continue carrying those newsgroups and will ignore any rmgroup control messages from Julien Elie or any other rogue source attempting to issue non-authorized control messages. Just ask Earthlink to see what they say. I have never used any of Earthlink's services to know how responsive is their tech support or even if their reps are given prior knowledge of planned changes in Earthlink's services. |