From: krw on 16 Jun 2010 20:34 On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:08:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >> >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:45:54 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: >> >> > PS. When I reply to your posts, I don't get the (>) before your post. >> > I also don't get the (>>) before my previous post. Is this my computer >> >or yours and how do I fix it. It is a pain to add them myself. >> >> That happens when some newsreaders (like OuthouseExcess) quote material from >> Google Groups. It's something Google does to the posts, but I've never been >> able to track it down. > > > That's just another good reason to ignore Google Groups users. I sometimes use Google Groups when it's exceedingly slow at work.
From: amdx on 16 Jun 2010 20:51 <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message news:looi165oiuqr1l2frsmejdoifp3pob3r9l(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:45:54 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: > >> PS. When I reply to your posts, I don't get the (>) before your post. >> I also don't get the (>>) before my previous post. Is this my computer >>or yours and how do I fix it. It is a pain to add them myself. > > That happens when some newsreaders (like OuthouseExcess) quote material > from > Google Groups. It's something Google does to the posts, but I've never > been > able to track it down. Thanks krw, I have had this several times before and never linked it to google groups. Next problem; sometimes emails come with a vertical line on the left edge of the text. This makes it difficult to intersperse text in the email. Any ideas? Mike
From: krw on 16 Jun 2010 21:02 On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:51:46 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: > ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >news:looi165oiuqr1l2frsmejdoifp3pob3r9l(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:45:54 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: >> >>> PS. When I reply to your posts, I don't get the (>) before your post. >>> I also don't get the (>>) before my previous post. Is this my computer >>>or yours and how do I fix it. It is a pain to add them myself. >> >> That happens when some newsreaders (like OuthouseExcess) quote material >> from >> Google Groups. It's something Google does to the posts, but I've never >> been >> able to track it down. > > Thanks krw, >I have had this several times before and never linked it to google groups. >Next problem; sometimes emails come with a vertical line on the left edge >of the text. This makes it difficult to intersperse text in the email. >Any ideas? Don't use OuthouseExcess? Block GoogleGroups?
From: Jim Thompson on 16 Jun 2010 21:32 On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:51:46 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: > ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >news:looi165oiuqr1l2frsmejdoifp3pob3r9l(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:45:54 -0500, "amdx" <amdx(a)knology.net> wrote: >> >>> PS. When I reply to your posts, I don't get the (>) before your post. >>> I also don't get the (>>) before my previous post. Is this my computer >>>or yours and how do I fix it. It is a pain to add them myself. >> >> That happens when some newsreaders (like OuthouseExcess) quote material >> from >> Google Groups. It's something Google does to the posts, but I've never >> been >> able to track it down. > > Thanks krw, >I have had this several times before and never linked it to google groups. >Next problem; sometimes emails come with a vertical line on the left edge >of the text. This makes it difficult to intersperse text in the email. >Any ideas? > Mike > Yep. Tell your friends to stop using Outhouse Excuse ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: Bill Bowden on 17 Jun 2010 00:02
On Jun 16, 3:45 am, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote: > "Bill Bowden" <wrongaddr...(a)att.net> wrote in message > > news:093222a0-e2eb-4690-b2ed-65aca4bb011d(a)h13g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 15, 7:22 pm, "amdx" <a...(a)knology.net> wrote:> When I started paying the rate was > > > > 4.2%, > > > now it is up to 6.2%. All very interesting :-) > > > Mike > > >> I did a little basic program to illustrate investing $500 per month > >> over 40 years at 5% compounded return yields about $763,017. Income at > > .>> 5% would be about 38K per year, probably not enough to pay the rent 40 > > > > >< years from now. > > >> Principal = 1 > >> Rate = .05 > >> For Year = 1 to 40 > >> For Month = 1 to 12 > >> Principal = Principal + Principal*(Rate/12) > >> Principal = Principal + 500 > >> Next Month > >> Next Year > >> Print Principal > > >> $763,017 > >> -Bill > > > I'm a believer in saving and the magic of compound interest. > > Maybe you misunderstood this comment from above; > > " When I started paying, the rate was 4.2%, now it is up to 6.2%." > > These are the percentages taken *from* your paycheck not the > > interest paid *on* your contributions. > > My average SS contribution has been about $150 a month not $500. > > At this point I'm not convinced that you earn interest on you > > contributions, > > I don't even think there is an account with SS money in, I think it has > > all > > been spent on previous recipients. And I think today's workers SS payments > > are going directly in one end of the SS admin. and right out the other end > > to today's recipients of SS. > > Mike > >Well, you will have to find evidence of that. > > This year, the system will pay out more in benefits than it receives in > payroll taxes, an important threshold it > was not expected to cross until at least 2016, according to the > Congressional Budget Office. > Fromhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/business/economy/25social.html > As has been said before there are IOUs not cash. The IOUs are an unfunded > liability to be > seized form the next generation of workers, if they don't revolt. > Mike > > Bill continued, > As I understand it, the > SS funds collected are invested in "special-issue securities" similar > to government bonds that pay interest, and carry the same guarantee as > US government bonds. The money is basically borrowed from the SS fund > to pay current obligations the same way the government borrows money > from China by selling bonds. > > I'm not sure if regular treasury bonds held by investors, or special- > issue bonds held in the SS trust fund have the same credit rating. In > other words, if push comes to shove, who gets paid first? the Chinese > holding our bonds? or the SS trust fund holding the special-issue > bonds? It's an open question I can't figure out. > > -Bill > PS. When I reply to your posts, I don't get the (>) before your post. > I also don't get the (>>) before my previous post. Is this my computer > or yours and how do I fix it. It is a pain to add them myself. I don't know what the problem is with the quotes. I use Firefox and Google Groups to read and reply. I don't like extra software. There should be a law against writing more software, we have enough already. -Bill |