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From: J.H.Boersema on 7 Aug 2010 15:46 On 2010-08-07, Goldy <uriz1(a)bezeqint.net> wrote: > True communism has never really existed anywhere in the world. True > communism is a world without money, without the constant threat of > violence made by governments, without governmental oppression and > without people allowed to die of hunger and diseases. This may sound > utopian to you but I think society should be more accepting of > utopia. It doesn't sound Utopian in its general feel of society, I only disagree with the technical details of the implementation as you suggested; I'd reject your design because I think your design will not cause that general society to come about, on the contrary. The word `Utopia' means `no-place,' but I agree that society in general should be far more interested in striving for a better society because the present situation is also the outcome of ideals of the past that people made real. Everything flows from ideals, even a clean kitchen. > Every day, over 150000 people and especially African children die of > curable diseases and hunger. > > Now the problem with poverty is that it is self-perpetuating. People > who are too sick and hungry cannot work which in turn perpetuates and > worsens their poverty. > > This should be not allowed in a true communist society. My system gives each person land, and power over the Government, justice & police forces to reduce crime, a money system for trade. Communism as such can only exist on a small scale, because then it is actually still a trade economy but it is computed in the head instead of with money. Hence it is really a trade society, although you could account for personal strength-weaknesses in the computation. The more moral a people the larger the groups can be with whom it can work. In a disaster situation it is usually obvious what should happen therefore communism works in a disaster situation, the need to help the other is obvious. Communism and my system are not exclusive, on the contrary: each business is just about the right size to be a communist group that doesn't need money internally. Note that businesses also run without money internally, they just talk and distribute the tasks, and in tyrannical businesses you have a boss who orders around the serfs. But that is all without money, not every act is traded upon, it is taken together and then at the end a sum is payed. In the meanwhile things are taken from the head, like a family. In a company that does things equitable you have a pure `commune' or if you want `tribe' that trades with external tribes. This is made a lot easier to accomplish in my system because people who want that can lock their lands together. The marxist lack of interest in my proposal I call with the only word that seems applicable: treason. Treason to themselves, to their intellect, and the people they claimed to represent. It is for that treason that world war 3 will happen, rather then that we act right now without the need for another devastating war that will probably be remembered 10,000 years into the future. -- _ _ /_\ _ _ http://www.SOCIALISM.nl Free markets and democracy, \ /v`V^v\ / but now: properly. /_\_#_#_/_\ \ / Day 102 of the revolution. |