History Based Modeling (SolidWorks) Dumped And Replaced With Direct Modeling (CoCreate)
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From: Joe788 on 28 May 2010 21:06 http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/112892/en/5478_Leenstra_CS_EN.pdf Working with our former 3D CAD system was frustrating because large models would cause the system to crash and we were losing data! With CoCreate Modeling, we can work with large models easily; design is faster and the team is more flexible. We used SolidWorks at first, says Terpstra. But we couldnt easily modify the 2D drawings we already had. This caused a great waste of time and many unexpected hours of work. He also found that it was difficult to manage 2D and 3D models in a single project." "However, the biggest trouble for the Leenstra team came from trying to load large models. Large assemblies were time-consuming, and we experienced a great deal of frustration as models crashed during design and even caused data loss. "Thats why the company switched from its original 3D CAD solution, SolidWorks, to a CoCreate solution, adopting Explicit Modeling and CoCreates integrated data management tools to help make product development faster and more flexible. Best of all, the CoCreate family of products supported the level of innovation that Leenstra relies on for its success." "With CoCreate Drawing Manager and CoCreate Model Manager, engineers can load and manage 2D and 3D data into one project. As well, CoCreate Modeling includes CoCreate Drafting, a 2D application compatible with CoCreate Modelings 3D environment. That means the designer can easily make or adjust drawings as part of a project, says Terpstra." "Best of all, CoCreate Modeling handles modeling data differently than SolidWorks, significantly reducing the data volume of models. Large assemblies work better in CoCreates 3D environment. Terpstra notes that his data now loads faster and is much more stable once in the system." "With 2D drawings working compatibly in the 3D environment, and with large models now performing so much better, Leenstra engineers now spend the bulk of their time designing machines instead of trying to work around the wrong design software. And that means Leenstra does more of what it does best: creative engineering."
From: noneya on 28 May 2010 22:40 On May 28, 6:06 pm, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/112892/en/5478_Leenstra_CS_EN.pdf > > Working with our former 3D CAD system was > frustrating because large models Seems they lacked due diligence when evaluating the first CAD package they bought. Much like you, they went with the CAD du jour based on adverts and demos rather than actually making a list of their criteria and evaluating competing CAD packages based on their needs. Had they loaded one or two of their projects they would have seen the issues up front. The issues would not be unknown to real users or any competent person evaluating a program. Complaining about issues after the fact is as dumb as buying something without knowing anything about it or basing your purchase on your needs. I use SolidWorks for large assemblies and it has been a very stable platform where I have maybe 5 crashes a year and most if not all of them can be traced to something I did. So when someone complains about crashes I recommend they look for the source and not blame the symptoms.
From: vinny on 29 May 2010 06:40 "Joe788" <larryrozer(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1f7b872a-024e-444a-bc83-eac64a75098a(a)m21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/112892/en/5478_Leenstra_CS_EN.pdf �Working with our former 3D CAD system was frustrating because large models would cause the system to crash � and we were losing data! With CoCreate Modeling, we can work with large models easily; design is faster and the team is more flexible.� �We used SolidWorks at first,� says Terpstra. �But we couldn�t easily modify the 2D drawings we already had. This caused a great waste of time and many unexpected hours of work.� He also found that it was difficult to manage 2D and 3D models in a single project." "However, the biggest trouble for the Leenstra team came from trying to load large models. �Large assemblies were time-consuming, and we experienced a great deal of frustration as models crashed during design and even caused data loss.� "That�s why the company switched from its original 3D CAD solution, SolidWorks, to a CoCreate solution, adopting Explicit Modeling and CoCreate�s integrated data management tools to help make product development faster and more flexible. Best of all, the CoCreate family of products supported the level of innovation that Leenstra relies on for its success." "With CoCreate Drawing Manager and CoCreate Model Manager, engineers can load and manage 2D and 3D data into one project. As well, CoCreate Modeling includes CoCreate Drafting, a 2D application compatible with CoCreate Modeling�s 3D environment. �That means the designer can easily make or adjust drawings as part of a project,� says Terpstra." "Best of all, CoCreate Modeling handles modeling data differently than SolidWorks, significantly reducing the data volume of models. Large assemblies work better in CoCreate�s 3D environment. Terpstra notes that his data now loads faster and is much more stable once in the system." "With 2D drawings working compatibly in the 3D environment, and with large models now performing so much better, Leenstra engineers now spend the bulk of their time designing machines instead of trying to work around the wrong design software. And that means Leenstra does more of what it does best: creative engineering." ********** I always notice this dipshit uses the words...we....our...etc... NEVER "I". I bet this nut is an invalid in a wheelchair, giving voice commands to his pc without ever actually modeling or programming anything. If large models are a problem....try not working on the whole assembly, or shrinking the part down a decimal place. Or hell...do something creative as opposed to just sitting there like a 4year old who won't eat his spinach. Waaaa, this software won't do exactly what I need it to do! I need something written that applies specifically to me and the exact parts im trying to make, or well actually, what the guys at my work are trying to make. Solidworks rules. If it's giving you trouble maybe you should try something easier...oh wait, there is nothing easier. (point)
From: cncmillgil on 29 May 2010 08:16 On May 28, 8:06 pm, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/112892/en/5478_Leenstra_CS_EN.pdf > > Working with our former 3D CAD system was > frustrating because large models would cause the > system to crash and we were losing data! With > CoCreate Modeling, we can work with large models > easily; design is faster and the team is more flexible. Well, ever hear of backup? > > We used SolidWorks at first, says Terpstra. But we couldnt easily > modify the 2D drawings we already had. This caused a great waste of > time and many unexpected hours of work. He also found that it was > difficult to manage 2D and 3D models in a single project." > > "However, the biggest trouble for the Leenstra team came from trying > to load large models. Large assemblies were time-consuming, and > we experienced a great deal of frustration as models crashed during > design and even caused data loss. How bout a computer with enough ram, proper video & HD space to handle those LARGE ASSY's > > "Thats why the company switched from its original 3D CAD solution, > SolidWorks, to a CoCreate solution, adopting Explicit Modeling and > CoCreates integrated data management tools to help make product > development faster and more flexible. Best of all, the CoCreate family > of products supported the level of innovation that Leenstra relies on > for its success." simple minds need simple solutions > > "With CoCreate Drawing Manager and CoCreate Model Manager, engineers > can load and manage 2D and 3D data into one project. As well, > CoCreate Modeling includes CoCreate Drafting, a 2D application > compatible with CoCreate Modelings 3D environment. That means > the designer can easily make or adjust drawings as part of a project, > says Terpstra." Been making 3D solidworks parts off of 2D Acad imported files for years. Not seeing a problem what so ever. IMO it works great. I just need to glance at the physical print once in awhile to make sure I have "lined" things up correctly & the Acad jockey "drawed it rite" > > "Best of all, CoCreate Modeling handles modeling data differently > than SolidWorks, significantly reducing the data volume of models. > Large assemblies work better in CoCreates 3D environment. Terpstra > notes that his data now loads faster and is much more stable once in > the system." finally got a new computer eh? > > "With 2D drawings working compatibly in the 3D environment, and > with large models now performing so much better, Leenstra engineers > now spend the bulk of their time designing machines instead > of trying to work around the wrong design software. And that means > Leenstra does more of what it does best: creative engineering." wonder what kind of parts they "creatively engineer"? widgets? maybe transparent aluminum? using unubtainum materiel? -- ~g~
From: Joe788 on 29 May 2010 10:43
http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/75473/en/3667_WP_Explct_Modl.pdf The explicit modeling approach has proven much faster for us. Even after many iterations of design changes, the models can be handled by anybody in the team. All our unexpected changes could easily be incorporated into the models. Marten Verhoeven, Head of ICT, Van Beek BV "An explicit approach to 3D design offers lasting benefits to companies, especially where one-off or highly customized product designs are common and where companies require the highest level of flexibility in the design process to respond to unexpected changes." "Innovative product design involves exploration and discovery. An explicit approach gives designers the freedom to rapidly evolve a product design in unpredictable and new directions where modifications cant be anticipated in advance." "With the explicit modeling approach, companies can rapidly test ideas, evaluate a broad range of options, and constantly adapt and refine a product as it moves through the development process. Companies benefit when they experiment with changes while changes are inexpensive and product designs arent locked into a specific development path." |