From: markp on 16 Dec 2009 18:01 "Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hgbm7i$n53$1(a)news.albasani.net... > On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:08:18 -0000) it happened "markp" > <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in <7ot0fkF3rhg99U1(a)mid.individual.net>: > >> >>"markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message >>news:7os5q4F3qsetoU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> I've just designed in a radio module RFM12B-433-S1 from hoperf >>> (www.hoperf.com). Now I cannot access the hoperf website. In fact >>> DNS doesn't resolve the name (either with my DNS servers or >>> online nslookup). >>> >>> Should I be worried? This is a Chinese company and these modules seem to >>> be >>> very popular. They might be changing servers I guess and Christmas is >>> probably a good time to do it, would this normally result in no DNS >>> lookup >>> at all while they do it? >>> >>> Mark. >>> >> >>Phew, it's back. Funnily none of the online nslookup services could find >>it >>either using their own servers, but at least my DNS servers can again. >>Maybe >>an outage at their hosting company (?). >> >>Mark. > > The same happens with my site when I switch the server off, as the name > server, > the authoritive one, that tells everybody where my site is (its IP > address), > also runs on this same server. > That is the way DNS can work, not everybody needs an ISP to run a 'named'. > A bit strange that hoperf.com (without the www) was resolved though. > Could also be their named was victim of some attack. > BTW 'named' is a program. Interesting. Remember hoperf.com was resolved to 121.199.253.175, and entering that into a browser got some wierd homepage? Well it is still resolved to that address, but if you type http://hoperf.com now into your browser now you get the proper site, which is the same as http://www.hoperf.com . However, www.hoperf.com resolves to 122.225.96.220. I assume this site has two IPs, one with the www and one without. Mark.
From: Jan Panteltje on 16 Dec 2009 18:09 On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:01:05 -0000) it happened "markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in <7ot733F3rjqt3U1(a)mid.individual.net>: > >"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:hgbm7i$n53$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:08:18 -0000) it happened "markp" >> <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in <7ot0fkF3rhg99U1(a)mid.individual.net>: >> >>> >>>"markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message >>>news:7os5q4F3qsetoU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> I've just designed in a radio module RFM12B-433-S1 from hoperf >>>> (www.hoperf.com). Now I cannot access the hoperf website. In fact >>>> DNS doesn't resolve the name (either with my DNS servers or >>>> online nslookup). >>>> >>>> Should I be worried? This is a Chinese company and these modules seem to >>>> be >>>> very popular. They might be changing servers I guess and Christmas is >>>> probably a good time to do it, would this normally result in no DNS >>>> lookup >>>> at all while they do it? >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>> >>>Phew, it's back. Funnily none of the online nslookup services could find >>>it >>>either using their own servers, but at least my DNS servers can again. >>>Maybe >>>an outage at their hosting company (?). >>> >>>Mark. >> >> The same happens with my site when I switch the server off, as the name >> server, >> the authoritive one, that tells everybody where my site is (its IP >> address), >> also runs on this same server. >> That is the way DNS can work, not everybody needs an ISP to run a 'named'. >> A bit strange that hoperf.com (without the www) was resolved though. >> Could also be their named was victim of some attack. >> BTW 'named' is a program. > >Interesting. Remember hoperf.com was resolved to 121.199.253.175, and >entering that into a browser got some wierd homepage? Well it is still >resolved to that address, but if you type http://hoperf.com now into your >browser now you get the proper site, which is the same as >http://www.hoperf.com . Yes, different machine. IIRC on a MS windows machine it sais something like 'here goes your homepage' if you had the personal web server running but did not make any pages. Just a placeholder perhsps. Same if you install Apache. Yes i tis Apache, at e;ast on the machine they use now: grml: ~ # telnet 121.199.253.175 80 Trying 121.199.253.175... Connected to 121.199.253.175. Escape character is '^]' (Typed anything, wrong request) http: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>501 Method Not Implemented</title> </head><body> <h1>Method Not Implemented</h1> <p>http: to /index.php not supported.<br /> </p> <hr /> <address>Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at url4.hichina.com Port 80</address> </body></html> Connection closed by foreign host. All of China runs Linux :-)
From: Jan Panteltje on 16 Dec 2009 18:18 On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:01:05 -0000) it happened "markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in <7ot733F3rjqt3U1(a)mid.individual.net>: grml: ~ # telnet 121.199.253.175 80 Trying 121.199.253.175... Connected to 121.199.253.175. Escape character is '^]' (Typed anything, wrong request) http: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>501 Method Not Implemented</title> </head><body> <h1>Method Not Implemented</h1> <p>http: to /index.php not supported.<br /> </p> <hr /> <address>Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at url4.hichina.com Port 80</address> </body></html> Connection closed by foreign host. All of China runs Linux :-) You can see teeh server is url4.hichina.com, so hichina.com could be the ISP. So do a whois hichina.com and you know all about it. (I just did, but think I should not publish it here, Verisign has lost of legal text in the reply...).
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