How can I tell if my hard drive is fat32 or ntft?
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From: LVTravel on 28 Apr 2010 23:08 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:e4vi3ny5KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > From: <catatonic-state(a)today.com> > > | I was reading the other messages about this on here. > | How can I tell if my hard drive is fat32 or ntft? > | I went to control panel and somewhere in there it says the word > | drives, but all it shows me is what I assume is the drive model > | number. I never knew there was a diffwerence. I thought all hard > | drives were the same. > > > You mean "FAT32 or NTFS". > > If your hard disk is greater than 32GB then you are using NTFS. > > XP does not provide a way to format drives greater than 32GB using the > FAT32 scheme. > > The drive model has NO bearing on this subject matter except that the > model suggests the > size of the disk. > > -- > Dave > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp > > David, slight correction to your post. While XP will not format a drive larger than 32 GB XP can be installed onto a FAT32 drive that has been formatted by another OS (98 or ME, etc.) or method larger than 32 GB. Just because the OP has a drive of 80 GB does not mean that it is formatted as NTFS. Others have posted the various ways that it can be determined if FAT 32 or NTFS is used.
From: Paul on 28 Apr 2010 23:12 catatonic-state(a)today.com wrote: > I was reading the other messages about this on here. > How can I tell if my hard drive is fat32 or ntft? > I went to control panel and somewhere in there it says the word > drives, but all it shows me is what I assume is the drive model > number. I never knew there was a diffwerence. I thought all hard > drives were the same. > Start ; Run : diskmgmt.msc Disks are broken up into pieces called "Partitions". When you look in Disk Management, you're seeing boxes representing partitions or empty spaces. In the list at the top of Disk Management, there is a column called "File System", and that shows the file system used on that particular partition. A disk can have multiple partitions. Right now, my disks have four partitions on each. Some of my partitions are FAT32 and some are NTFS. I make NTFS partitions, when I know I'll need to store files having a size over 4GB. FAT32 only supports files up to a maximum size of 4GB. Some utility software, if it sees you're using FAT32, will break up an output file into smaller pieces, to fit within that limit. If you're doing downloads, and you attempt to download a >4GB file onto a C: drive formatted FAT32, that can result in the download being stopped. The browser may be using the %temp% directory for the download, and overflowing that is what may stop your download. FAT32 is fine, as long as you keep that 4GB limit in mind when doing stuff. If you worked a lot with large files used for preparing DVDs, then FAT32 might not be a good choice. There are utilities available, that can format a partition with the FAT32 file system, for partitions larger than 32GB. I think you can have a FAT32 partition up to 2TB in size, but it might not be the most efficient way to store files. Microsoft encouraged NTFS, by making their FAT32 formatter stop at 32GB, but since the file system supports more than that, a third party utility will let you do what you want. http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/download/fat32format.zip Once unzipped, that gives the command line program "fat32format.exe". The 2TB limit for FAT32 is mentioned here (2TB if you want to boot from it). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32 HTH, Paul
From: David H. Lipman on 29 Apr 2010 06:15 From: <catatonic-state(a)today.com> | You mean that win98 or win-me DID allow bigger than 32 gig drives and | XP dont? Isnt that sort of backwards? Especially when they now sell | 1000gig drives (I think they call that a trigabyte). | My drive is a 40gig and I used one method mentioned on here and it has | NTFS (spelled right this time). I would like to add another 40gig | drive. I do know how to put in another drive, and probably have to | change a jumper. But how do I get it to be NTFS? Or, dont it matter | what I use on a second drive? I'd actually like to get an 80gig or | bigger drive, but if I cant use more than 32 gigs, whats the point. | The funny thing is that my 12 year old computer with win98 has 3 hard | drives with a total of 160 gigs. And I thought XP was supposed to be | superior. | By the way. how the heck do I make a shortcut for control panel on | the desktop with XP? In win98, it was just like making any other | shortcut, but in XP, the right click mouse dont give that option. Why | not? So far, XP is much harder to use than win98, and everyone told | me it was easier. WRONG. Win9x/ME defaulte to formatting in FAT32 because they were DIS based OS' while XP is a NT based OS, WinXP will format a 20GB drive as FAT32 but anything larger than 32GB will be formatted as NTFS and you won't see a FAT32 selection available. XP is is easy to use, it is just different beacuse it is a NT based OS There were two families; Win9x/ME and NT. Now there is only one and that is NT and NT4, Win2K, XP, Vista and Windows 7 are in that family. As for adding a second drive, you would be hard pressed to find another 40GB hard disk. If your system has 40GB then it has some age to it and you have an IDE/EIDE disk sub-system and if you wanted to add an internal hard disk you would have to get a IDE/EIDE hard disk, Depending upon its age and BIOS its possible that it won't see a hard disak >132GB in size. You do not NEED a Cotrol Panel icon on the desktop. You can easily get to the Control Panel via; Start --> settings --> control panel -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Bob I on 29 Apr 2010 08:32 catatonic-state(a)today.com wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:08:28 -0400, "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com> > wrote: > > >> >>"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message >>news:e4vi3ny5KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>From: <catatonic-state(a)today.com> >>> >>>| I was reading the other messages about this on here. >>>| How can I tell if my hard drive is fat32 or ntft? >>>| I went to control panel and somewhere in there it says the word >>>| drives, but all it shows me is what I assume is the drive model >>>| number. I never knew there was a diffwerence. I thought all hard >>>| drives were the same. >>> >>> >>>You mean "FAT32 or NTFS". >>> >>>If your hard disk is greater than 32GB then you are using NTFS. >>> >>>XP does not provide a way to format drives greater than 32GB using the >>>FAT32 scheme. >>> >>>The drive model has NO bearing on this subject matter except that the >>>model suggests the >>>size of the disk. >>> >>>-- >>>Dave >>>http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html >>>Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >>> >>> >> >>David, slight correction to your post. While XP will not format a drive >>larger than 32 GB XP can be installed onto a FAT32 drive that has been >>formatted by another OS (98 or ME, etc.) or method larger than 32 GB. Just >>because the OP has a drive of 80 GB does not mean that it is formatted as >>NTFS. Others have posted the various ways that it can be determined if FAT >>32 or NTFS is used. > > > You mean that win98 or win-me DID allow bigger than 32 gig drives and > XP dont? Isnt that sort of backwards? Especially when they now sell > 1000gig drives (I think they call that a trigabyte). > NO, DOS based Windows CAN'T handle NTFS, they HAVE to use FAT32. XP can handle any size drive, BUT will NOT create a FAT32 partition greater than 32 GIGs by design because NTFS is better for handling large drives.
From: Tim Slattery on 29 Apr 2010 09:12 catatonic-state(a)today.com wrote: >You mean that win98 or win-me DID allow bigger than 32 gig drives and >XP dont? Isnt that sort of backwards? In Win95/98/ME you couldn't use NTFS. The only choice you had for a large partition was NTFS. So yes, those systems allowed you to create horribly large FAT32 partitions. SP/Vista/Win7 will use a FAT32 partition of any size. But the software that comes with the OS will not create a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB, because NTFS is available and it's a MUCH better choice for huge partitions. > I would like to add another 40gig >drive. I do know how to put in another drive, and probably have to >change a jumper. But how do I get it to be NTFS? When you start the computer after installing the new drive, it won't show up in Windows Explorer. You'll have to start Disk Manager and create at least one partition on it. You'll be able to choose which file system to use on each partition you create. > Or, dont it matter what I use on a second drive? No more and no less than on any other partition. > I'd actually like to get an 80gig or >bigger drive, but if I cant use more than 32 gigs, whats the point. Did I miss something? If you're running XP you can use any size disk. You'll be FAR better off using NTFS for huge partitions. >By the way. how the heck do I make a shortcut for control panel on >the desktop with XP? Try this: open the Start menu, and find the Control Panel shortcut. Right-click it and drag it to the desktop. -- Tim Slattery Slattery_T(a)bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
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