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From: David Nebenzahl on 30 Jun 2010 20:14
On 6/30/2010 4:47 PM William Sommerwerck spake thus:

> I suspect the original poster doesn't know much about electronics. We should
> stop trying to help him, and ask that he find someone "local" (in his own
> country) who can explain how to use test equipment.

Don't you think it's just a mite too early to give up on him (her)? Ask
some more questions. They obviously didn't provide us with enough
information; we know how to easily fix that problem.


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with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

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From: William Sommerwerck on 30 Jun 2010 20:40
>> I suspect the original poster doesn't know much about electronics.
>> We should stop trying to help him, and ask that he find someone
>> "local" (in his own country) who can explain how to use test equipment.

> Don't you think it's just a mite too early to give up on him (her)? Ask
> some more questions. They obviously didn't provide us with enough
> information; we know how to easily fix that problem.

He's obviously making some gross error, but can't explain exactly /what/
he's doing. That's all the more reason for asking him to look for local
help.

This is not unlike trying to explain to someone on the other side of the
world how to tie shoelaces.


From: Meat Plow on 30 Jun 2010 20:59
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:40:49 -0700, William Sommerwerck ǝʇoɹʍ:

>>> I suspect the original poster doesn't know much about electronics. We
>>> should stop trying to help him, and ask that he find someone "local"
>>> (in his own country) who can explain how to use test equipment.
>
>> Don't you think it's just a mite too early to give up on him (her)? Ask
>> some more questions. They obviously didn't provide us with enough
>> information; we know how to easily fix that problem.
>
> He's obviously making some gross error, but can't explain exactly /what/
> he's doing. That's all the more reason for asking him to look for local
> help.
>
> This is not unlike trying to explain to someone on the other side of the
> world how to tie shoelaces.

Bunny Ears
Probably the most common method for teaching kids to tie their own shoes
is the "Bunny Ears" method.

Tell the child that he needs to make his shoe laces into "bunny ears."
First, he needs to secure a knot for the bunny's head. Take the laces and
cross them over to make an "X". Then, pull one ear through the bottom of
the "X" and pull tight.

Say, "Now we need to give bunny some ears." Loop the laces into "bunny
ears".

Tell the child that now we need to "make the bunny ears tight so they
don't fall off". Then make another "X" using the "bunny ears", slide one
"ear" under the "X" and pull tightly.

Plagiarized from:
http://kidsfashion.about.com/od/doityourselfstyles/tp/kidstieshoes.htm
From: David Nebenzahl on 30 Jun 2010 22:46
On 6/30/2010 5:59 PM Meat Plow spake thus:

> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:40:49 -0700, William Sommerwerck ǝʇoɹʍ:
>
>> This is not unlike trying to explain to someone on the other side of the
>> world how to tie shoelaces.
>
> Bunny Ears
> Probably the most common method for teaching kids to tie their own shoes
> is the "Bunny Ears" method.
>
> Tell the child that he needs to make his shoe laces into "bunny ears."
> First, he needs to secure a knot for the bunny's head. Take the laces and
> cross them over to make an "X". Then, pull one ear through the bottom of
> the "X" and pull tight.
>
> Say, "Now we need to give bunny some ears." Loop the laces into "bunny
> ears".

[...]

Ackshooly, the way I heard it taught over here (U.S.) was similar, but
more along the lines of making a bunny (to make the first loop), then
"chasing the bunny around the stump" to complete the tie.

Dang, now I won't be able to tie my shoes at all ...


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
From: Ron on 1 Jul 2010 05:11
On 01/07/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 6/30/2010 5:59 PM Meat Plow spake thus:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:40:49 -0700, William Sommerwerck ǝʇoɹʍ:
>>
>>> This is not unlike trying to explain to someone on the other side of the
>>> world how to tie shoelaces.
>>
>> Bunny Ears
>> Probably the most common method for teaching kids to tie their own
>> shoes is the "Bunny Ears" method.
>>
>> Tell the child that he needs to make his shoe laces into "bunny ears."
>> First, he needs to secure a knot for the bunny's head. Take the laces
>> and cross them over to make an "X". Then, pull one ear through the
>> bottom of the "X" and pull tight.
>>
>> Say, "Now we need to give bunny some ears." Loop the laces into "bunny
>> ears".
>
> [...]
>
> Ackshooly, the way I heard it taught over here (U.S.) was similar, but
> more along the lines of making a bunny (to make the first loop), then
> "chasing the bunny around the stump" to complete the tie.
>
> Dang, now I won't be able to tie my shoes at all ...
>
>

riiight... now he can tie his shoes, all that remains is to tell him
how to hook his scope across the output of his amp!

Sheesh
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