From: Rowland McDonnell on
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:

> nancy <me751(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > On 7/9/2010 9:31 AM, Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > > Chris Ridd<chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> As to iPhoto alternatives, I guess Photoshop Elements is roughly
> > >> equivalent. Maybe Picassa too? At the higher end Lightroom and Aperture
> > >> are also presumably able to download from attached cameras.
> > >
> > > GraphicConverter for me...
> >
> > How do you do it on windows, itunes?
>
> FWIW for Windows file where converting formats, slideshow etc is
> concerned (minimal paint tools) the free Irfanview can't be beaten. No
> computer should be without it.

Just for the sake of personal curiosity mostly 'cos I've got WineBottler
<http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/>, I'd like to give Irfanview a go.

I know nothing about the Windoze world at all - well, aside from viewing
it from afar as the domain of the evil empire and staying well clear.

So, erm:

<http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm>

presents me with a choice of md5 checksums for various versions:

iview427_setup.exe - b2f4f43f8fb8110c82a60e3793922912
iview427.zip - afc61deed0da83b0b84d4b4194a025f8
iview427g_setup.exe - a7f5fc23f4c798a1eef1bc1c9bae93c9
iview427g.zip - 4eeaea387d636be890faebd9bfe854f8

.... anyone know which version is the one to download?

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From: Duncan Kennedy on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
>
> > nancy <me751(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/9/2010 9:31 AM, Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > > > Chris Ridd<chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> As to iPhoto alternatives, I guess Photoshop Elements is roughly
> > > >> equivalent. Maybe Picassa too? At the higher end Lightroom and Aperture
> > > >> are also presumably able to download from attached cameras.
> > > >
> > > > GraphicConverter for me...
> > >
> > > How do you do it on windows, itunes?
> >
> > FWIW for Windows file where converting formats, slideshow etc is
> > concerned (minimal paint tools) the free Irfanview can't be beaten. No
> > computer should be without it.
>
> Just for the sake of personal curiosity mostly 'cos I've got WineBottler
> <http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/>, I'd like to give Irfanview a go.
>
> I know nothing about the Windoze world at all - well, aside from viewing
> it from afar as the domain of the evil empire and staying well clear.
>
> So, erm:
>
> <http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm>
>
> presents me with a choice of md5 checksums for various versions:
>
> iview427_setup.exe - b2f4f43f8fb8110c82a60e3793922912
> iview427.zip - afc61deed0da83b0b84d4b4194a025f8
> iview427g_setup.exe - a7f5fc23f4c798a1eef1bc1c9bae93c9
> iview427g.zip - 4eeaea387d636be890faebd9bfe854f8
>
> ... anyone know which version is the one to download?
>
Ah - you got me tere - I can only suggest that the zip version is simply
a compressed version of the similarly named setuop one. Min is out of
date again - 4.10 but when I go for a Windows download I usually click
on the button in the Help > About section of the installed application -
the significance being it takes you to

http://www.irfanview.net (note the .net)

Which has never confused me the way teh .com one has done! (I doesn't
seem to offer checksums. It takes you to a cnet site and the offer to
download :iview427-setupexe.

The interface is neither standard Windiws now=r Mac but intuitive
enough. You may be asked which files you want the installer to make
Irfan the default viewer - there is a long list and it will be happy
enough with none ticked if you prefer not to change your setup. There
is also a plug-ins file - if you are experimenting that is worth having
too.

Recently a client sent me an EPS file for convertion to web use -
nothing on my Macs would touch it (although these are limited yet.) Nor
would anything commercial on my WinXP and Vista boxes - full Adobe CS3
web suite including AI, Fireworks etc. - and an earlier suite with
Freehand.

I guess the client got the file from a designer using Quark or something
I don't have. Anyway Irfan opened it (or the embedded TIFF) and let me
save it as a Ping for Fireworks. and a JPEG. It also opens early Kodak
photo CD and digital camera formats and some I have never met in the
flesh.




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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
[snip]
> > > FWIW for Windows file where converting formats, slideshow etc is
> > > concerned (minimal paint tools) the free Irfanview can't be beaten. No
> > > computer should be without it.
> >
> > Just for the sake of personal curiosity mostly 'cos I've got WineBottler
> > <http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/>, I'd like to give Irfanview a go.
> >
> > I know nothing about the Windoze world at all - well, aside from viewing
> > it from afar as the domain of the evil empire and staying well clear.
> >
> > So, erm:
> >
> > <http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm>
> >
> > presents me with a choice of md5 checksums for various versions:
> >
> > iview427_setup.exe - b2f4f43f8fb8110c82a60e3793922912
> > iview427.zip - afc61deed0da83b0b84d4b4194a025f8
> > iview427g_setup.exe - a7f5fc23f4c798a1eef1bc1c9bae93c9
> > iview427g.zip - 4eeaea387d636be890faebd9bfe854f8
> >
> > ... anyone know which version is the one to download?
> >
> Ah - you got me tere - I can only suggest that the zip version is simply
> a compressed version of the similarly named setuop one. Min is out of
> date again - 4.10 but when I go for a Windows download I usually click
> on the button in the Help > About section of the installed application -
> the significance being it takes you to
>
> http://www.irfanview.net (note the .net)
>
> Which has never confused me the way teh .com one has done! (I doesn't
> seem to offer checksums.

Oh yes it just has done. On the download page:

MD5 checksums:
iview427_setup.exe - b2f4f43f8fb8110c82a60e3793922912
iview427.zip - afc61deed0da83b0b84d4b4194a025f8
iview427g_setup.exe - a7f5fc23f4c798a1eef1bc1c9bae93c9
iview427g.zip - 4eeaea387d636be890faebd9bfe854f8

> It takes you to a cnet site and the offer to
> download :iview427-setupexe.

Well, I've got that now.

> The interface is neither standard Windiws now=r Mac but intuitive
> enough.

Ah - `practically unusable', then...

(that's what `intuitive enough' translates to here; I need a manual.
Manuals are mostly not written these days, so I don't get to use much
new software)

> You may be asked which files you want the installer to make
> Irfan the default viewer - there is a long list and it will be happy
> enough with none ticked if you prefer not to change your setup.

I rather think so - not sure what effect that sort of thing would have
given that WineBottler will be involved...

> There
> is also a plug-ins file - if you are experimenting that is worth having
> too.

I don't know if experimentation is the right word. Playing, perhaps? I
don't expect to be able to learn enough to experiment.

> Recently a client sent me an EPS file for convertion to web use -
> nothing on my Macs would touch it (although these are limited yet.)

<puzzled> Ghostscript should deal with it perfectly well.

> Nor
> would anything commercial on my WinXP and Vista boxes - full Adobe CS3
> web suite including AI, Fireworks etc. - and an earlier suite with
> Freehand.

Now that's odd.

> I guess the client got the file from a designer using Quark or something
> I don't have. Anyway Irfan opened it (or the embedded TIFF) and let me
> save it as a Ping for Fireworks. and a JPEG. It also opens early Kodak
> photo CD and digital camera formats and some I have never met in the
> flesh.

I'm curious as to this EPS which wouldn't open. If *Adobe* software's
not happy with it, one has to suspect a mangled EPS.

Rowland.

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From: Duncan Kennedy on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
>
at now.
>
> > The interface is neither standard Windiws now=r Mac but intuitive
> > enough.
>
> Ah - `practically unusable', then...

Not really - not for what it does. I guess from your posts you have
used a great deal of software over the years so won't find it difficult.
>

> I rather think so - not sure what effect that sort of thing would have
> given that WineBottler will be involved...

Can't speak for that - I must try WineBottler on something - there is
some windows software I sometimes miss - especially for existing old
data files. How easy is t to use and does it handle a lot of Windows
stuff? I know nothig about it but will follow the link you gave.
>

> > Recently a client sent me an EPS file for convertion to web use -
> > nothing on my Macs would touch it (although these are limited yet.)
>
> <puzzled> Ghostscript should deal with it perfectly well.
>
> > Nor
> > would anything commercial on my WinXP and Vista boxes - full Adobe CS3
> > web suite including AI, Fireworks etc. - and an earlier suite with
> > Freehand.
>
> Now that's odd.

That's what I thought
>
> > I guess the client got the file from a designer using Quark or something
> > I don't have. Anyway Irfan opened it (or the embedded TIFF) and let me
> > save it as a Ping for Fireworks. and a JPEG. It also opens early Kodak
> > photo CD and digital camera formats and some I have never met in the
> > flesh.
>
> I'm curious as to this EPS which wouldn't open. If *Adobe* software's
> not happy with it, one has to suspect a mangled EPS.

I agree - in fact something I tried put up a warning to that effect.
It's in circumstances of last resort that I like Irfan - not familiar
enough with Macs yet to know of similar solutions.

That job is done now and the errant EPS gone. (My client's office guru
- enthusiastic young lad with a collection of dubious software was
confident he could open it and failed.)


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