How do I setup printer?
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From: Russell L. Harris on 7 May 2007 12:50 * Jan Sneep <jan(a)azureservices.ca> [070507 05:56]: > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick tip for getting > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on the LAN? I've > gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer icon, but Samba > can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help doesn't seem to be > suggesting anything useful. Do you have the latest edition of the O'Reilly SAMBA book? It is available on-line without charge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Jan Sneep on 7 May 2007 14:20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:andrew(a)farwestbilliards.com] > Sent: May 7, 2007 11:19 AM > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I setup printer? > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick > tip for getting > > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on > the LAN? I've > > gone to http://localhost:901/ and clicked on the Printer > icon, but Samba > > can't seem to find the printer automatically and the help > doesn't seem to be > > suggesting anything useful. > > > > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared- > Printing.html > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > ng_with_windows.html > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 > > A I followed the steps in http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_window s.html to the letter and it didn't work. Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two lines I needed to add; Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. and do chmod 777 /home/smbprint and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my Debian server ... yeah !!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Andrew Sackville-West on 7 May 2007 15:00 On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:07:44PM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:andrew(a)farwestbilliards.com] > > > > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick > > tip for getting > > > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on > > the LAN? I've > > > > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared- > > Printing.html > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > > ng_with_windows.html > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 > > I followed the steps in > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_window > s.html to the letter and it didn't work. > > Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two > lines I needed to add; > > Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. > > and do > > chmod 777 /home/smbprint > > and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my > Debian server ... yeah !!! a couple things to note here: 1. I googled "debian windows print samba" and got those, and many other great hits, on the first page. You would be well served to learn to google-fu to help you with this stuff. There are *vast* quantities of really good linux info on the web, its just a matter of learning the right search terminology. Also, www.debian-administration.org is a great site and has a local search function as well. I use it often. 2. Many debian oriented guides are geared towards "sarge". With "etch" out, we should see those starting to update, but it will be a while. you'll have to make various translations as you go along. A
From: Jan Sneep on 8 May 2007 09:50 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:andrew(a)farwestbilliards.com] > Sent: May 7, 2007 2:50 PM > To: debian-user(a)lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I setup printer? > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:07:44PM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > > > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:andrew(a)farwestbilliards.com] > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:52:50AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > > > That's a great tip ... now do you have any equally slick > > > tip for getting > > > > Samba to share that printer to the rest of the computers on > > > the LAN? I've > > > > > > http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared- > > > Printing.html > > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > > > ng_with_windows.html > > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 > > > > > I followed the steps in > > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari ng_with_window > s.html to the letter and it didn't work. > > Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two > lines I needed to add; > > Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. > > and do > > chmod 777 /home/smbprint > > and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my > Debian server ... yeah !!! a couple things to note here: 1. I googled "debian windows print samba" and got those, and many other great hits, on the first page. You would be well served to learn to google-fu to help you with this stuff. There are *vast* quantities of really good linux info on the web, its just a matter of learning the right search terminology. Also, www.debian-administration.org is a great site and has a local search function as well. I use it often. 2. Many debian oriented guides are geared towards "sarge". With "etch" out, we should see those starting to update, but it will be a while. you'll have to make various translations as you go along. Thanks for the tips Andrew ... but with all due respect ... IMHO ... basic stuff like sharing a printer on a small LAN SHOULDN'T be so complex nor require searching the WWW and the possible risks of getting bad information and trashing your system! I started my task of add this printer by following some advice from this list ... printconf ... then when that didn't work found the www.linux.org site which also gave some steps that should have worked, but because of not managing to get ANY software to work on my system for many months and having found that Debian documents found on the Internet do not always work as described, thought I'd better ask which of the steps identified NEED to be done. Turns out the answer was none of the above, new tip, for a browser interface to CUPS. Don't get me wrong, this is great, but hopefully you can appreciate how this might be frustrating and how I might not necessarily agree with your suggestion that I would be "well served to learn to" Google better ... :O) I have it working, which is great, but now I'm wondering, what steps did I do that I didn't NEED to do to get this working, because I removed some entries from the smb.conf to get it exactly what was shown in the document, will I be missing some functionality that is put in by default that I might need down the road when I try and install some other software package and thus spend hours running around in circles trying to find some document some place that mentions that I need one of those lines that are now gone. Mine was a pure clean Etch install (only a couple of days old) and yet needed to cobble together a solution from two separate documents, both of which purported to HAVE the answer. Perhaps there should be an "official" .... Doing Basic Stuff in Debian ... icon on the default desktop that gets installed with Debian ... yes, there can be lots of discussion about what constitutes "basic stuff", but adding a printer and sharing it across a LAN. IMHO, should have been as simple as checking a box labelled "Share this Printer ?" "Share with Windows computers Yes/No? "Do you want a password Yes/No?, etc and then have ALL the necessary changes made to the various config files. Once you know what to do it isn't difficult, but of course it is knowing what to do that is always the challenge isn't it? It is kinda like wandering around in Zelda trying to figure out what combination of hidden buttons to hit to un-lock the next room in the adventure ... only with Zelda the graphics are better ... :O) My two cents for what they are worth, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Andrew Sackville-West on 8 May 2007 13:00 > > > > > > I followed the steps in > > > > > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/shari > ng_with_window > > s.html to the letter and it didn't work. > > > > Luckily the http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/425 had the two > > lines I needed to add; > > > > Allow From 192.168.1.* in the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. > > > > and do > > > > chmod 777 /home/smbprint > > > > and now I can print from my Win Xp machine to a printer connected to my > > Debian server ... yeah !!! > > a couple things to note here: > > 1. I googled "debian windows print samba" and got those, and many > other great hits, on the first page. You would be well served to learn > to google-fu to help you with this stuff. There are *vast* quantities > of really good linux info on the web, its just a matter of learning > the right search terminology. Also, www.debian-administration.org is a > great site and has a local search function as well. I use it often. > > 2. Many debian oriented guides are geared towards "sarge". With "etch" > out, we should see those starting to update, but it will be a > while. you'll have to make various translations as you go along. > > Thanks for the tips Andrew ... but with all due respect ... IMHO ... basic > stuff like sharing a printer on a small LAN SHOULDN'T be so complex nor > require searching the WWW and the possible risks of getting bad information > and trashing your system! All due respect noted and back atchya! ;) I agree, sharing a printer on a small little LAN should be easy, and in all reality, it *is*. The one we missed is through the localhost:631 interface of cups, in the "manage server" section is a check box for sharing the printer. I'm not sure how well that works with windows printers, but it does work. Remember that in linux there are *MANY* ways to skin the cat and you have to choose what works for you from among the many choices. When you first start, this is really overwhelming and frustrating. Later, when you've got a good handle on it all, you'll find its really easy. Why? Because you *know* what's going on and you can diagnose problems and fix them. The other option is the windows method (not flaming here) where everything is a button but you don't know what's going on under the hood. Sure it works, but when it breaks, what do you do? ' > > I started my task of add this printer by following some advice from this > list ... printconf ... then when that didn't work found the www.linux.org > site which also gave some steps that should have worked, but because of not > managing to get ANY software to work on my system for many months and having > found that Debian documents found on the Internet do not always work as > described, thought I'd better ask which of the steps identified NEED to be > done. Turns out the answer was none of the above, new tip, for a browser > interface to CUPS. Don't get me wrong, this is great, but hopefully you can > appreciate how this might be frustrating and how I might not necessarily > agree with your suggestion that I would be "well served to learn to" Google > better ... :O) I know its frustrating, and I don't disagree with some of your assessment there. Realise, though, that linux in general is a moving target. Its constantly being updated, changed, theoretically improved. That means that tips and docs you find on the web can be out of date. That doesn't mean they aren't valuable and can often provide clues on how to do something. If a suggested command doesn't work, a quick check of the manpage can often provide the necessary bits that have changed. Finally, I find that google gets more and more useful the more I learn about linux. A lot of it is learning the right search terminology. > > I have it working, which is great, but now I'm wondering, what steps did I > do that I didn't NEED to do to get this working, because I removed some > entries from the smb.conf to get it exactly what was shown in the document, > will I be missing some functionality that is put in by default that I might > need down the road when I try and install some other software package and > thus spend hours running around in circles trying to find some document some > place that mentions that I need one of those lines that are now gone. CUPS, and many parts of a linux system, are extremely versatile. THey can be used to do all sorts of thing that you'd not expect. You can personally host a full-blown website with forums, rss feeds, email gateways, the whole shebang right there on your home computer with free software. And it can scale right up to full blown enterprise level (whatever that means) solutions with ease. It is immensely powerful, but with that power comes *lots* of complexity, responsibility etc. Most thigns, though, have pretty sane defaults. Most things that are in config files by default reflect the default settings anyway, so you're probably fine. If you really want to, you could move aside your old smb.conf file and then dpkg-reconfigure samba to get the original back and try again from scratch. > > Mine was a pure clean Etch install (only a couple of days old) and yet > needed to cobble together a solution from two separate documents, both of > which purported to HAVE the answer. Perhaps there should be an "official" > ... Doing Basic Stuff in Debian ... icon on the default desktop that gets > installed with Debian ... yes, there can be lots of discussion about what > constitutes "basic stuff", but adding a printer and sharing it across a LAN. > IMHO, should have been as simple as checking a box labelled "Share this > Printer ?" "Share with Windows computers Yes/No? "Do you want a password > Yes/No?, I think you can more or less do that through the CUPS web interface. Supposedly you can share printers with windows >= XP using the ipp protocol and CUPS directly without samba. I've not done it as I have no windows boxes anymore. I realise this information may be a bit too late, but there it is. We all get lost in the details sometimes and miss the easy way... etc and then have ALL the necessary changes made to the various > config files. Once you know what to do it isn't difficult, but of course it > is knowing what to do that is always the challenge isn't it? > indeed. If it wasn't challenging it wouldn't be fun ;) A
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