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From: dorayme on 14 Mar 2010 17:07 In article <1526209.q0lBPeGtti(a)PointedEars.de>, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > dorayme wrote: > > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > >> dorayme wrote: > >> > Mason C wrote: > >> >> I'm puzzled by the whole centering thing. Should one center or not? > >> > Is the second sentence the whole of the content of your > >> > puzzlement about centring? If so, then here are some guidelines: > >> > > >> > 1. Generally do not centre body text, or sub headings. > >> > 2. There are no guidelines beyond 1. > >> > >> 1. Why not? > > > > If you don't know why not, it is going to be very hard to explain > > it to you. [...] > > That would depend on whether you are able to provide a reasonable argument > or are just venting a lot of hot air. Rest assured that only because you > say so that does not make it right. > Do you really suppose that your last sentence is not thoroughly known to me. It is like my own flesh and blood, so familiar am I with it. I am married to it. We have grown old together. There are children, grandchildren even... want some pictures? But let's look at your first sentence above. Why would the difficulty of explaining why it is not in general advisable to have English body text anything but left aligned, be dependent on my ability to provide a reasonable argument? It would be even more difficult surely doing it with an unreasonable argument. Please think more carefully before saying anything to me. I accept reasoned remarks or pure insults, nothing fuzzily in between two ears. Thank you in advance. > >> 2. Depends on what you mean by "centre". > > > > When you say anything, the truth of it depends on the meaning of > > the words. > > Ahh, you eventually noticed. Now apply that to your own reasoning. > Why eventually? What makes you think I have not *realised* this all along. But there is a general question here: does anyone apply this to their own reasoning? How does anyone *apply* any logical constraint? Are there people who realise that a statement and its negation cannot both be true but fail to *apply* this? Really? There is some sort of algorithm here that some people simply forget to *apply*? > > Have you queried anything specific? > > Have you? > I queried the temptation that some people seem to have (it is not very common among experienced page makers) to have body text aligned: center. I queried the idea that there is a rule to tell page makers when and when not to centre align things. Please study the two rules I gave more carefully. They form an intimate package and cannot be separated without loss. Thank you in advance of the other thing I thanked you in advance for above. -- dorayme
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 14 Mar 2010 17:22 dorayme wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> dorayme wrote: >> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> >> dorayme wrote: >> >> > Mason C wrote: >> >> >> I'm puzzled by the whole centering thing. Should one center or >> >> >> not? >> >> > Is the second sentence the whole of the content of your >> >> > puzzlement about centring? If so, then here are some guidelines: >> >> > >> >> > 1. Generally do not centre body text, or sub headings. >> >> > 2. There are no guidelines beyond 1. >> >> >> >> 1. Why not? >> > >> > If you don't know why not, it is going to be very hard to explain >> > it to you. [...] >> >> That would depend on whether you are able to provide a reasonable >> argument or are just venting a lot of hot air. Rest assured that only >> because you say so that does not make it right. > > Do you really suppose that your last sentence is not thoroughly > known to me. It is like my own flesh and blood, so familiar am I > with it. I am married to it. We have grown old together. There > are children, grandchildren even... want some pictures? > > But let's look at your first sentence above. Why would the > difficulty of explaining why it is not in general advisable to > have English body text anything but left aligned, be dependent on > my ability to provide a reasonable argument? It would be even > more difficult surely doing it with an unreasonable argument. > Please think more carefully before saying anything to me. I > accept reasoned remarks or pure insults, nothing fuzzily in > between two ears. Thank you in advance. > [snipped evasive action] You have a rather long-winded and particularly impolite and uncalled-for way of saying that you do not really have a point. I figured as much, though. PointedEars
From: dorayme on 14 Mar 2010 17:35 In article <7909772.7sEU6C4ouq(a)PointedEars.de>, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > dorayme wrote: > [... long winded and particularly impolite and uncalled for stuff ....] > > You have a rather long-winded and particularly impolite and uncalled-for > way of saying that you do not really have a point. I figured as much, > though. > What interests me this morning is not your blindness to the rudeness dripping *from your own fingers*, but this: if you figured as much, what was your real purpose in talking to me? You were plotting against me - in advance! <g> -- dorayme
From: Mason C on 14 Mar 2010 19:51
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:35:56 +1100, dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >In article <7909772.7sEU6C4ouq(a)PointedEars.de>, > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > >> dorayme wrote: >> >[... long winded and particularly impolite and uncalled for stuff >...] >> >> You have a rather long-winded and particularly impolite and uncalled-for >> way of saying that you do not really have a point. I figured as much, >> though. >> > >What interests me this morning is not your blindness to the >rudeness dripping *from your own fingers*, but this: if you >figured as much, what was your real purpose in talking to me? You >were plotting against me - in advance! <g> and it all started from confusion between: centering a page on the screen centering text inside the page sheeeeez MasonC |