How to filter out mailing list spam with bogofilter
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From: Ron Johnson on 9 Jan 2008 16:30 On 01/09/08 14:59, Nigel Henry wrote: [snip] > > I was trying to get a resolution to the problem of how to set up bogofilter to > deal with mailing list spam, not deliberately attract spammers. A link to a > known mailing list that wasn't too bothered about spam on their list would > have been usefull though, as the Debian guys have resolved the spam flood > problem. And he saw the part where you complained about a sudden lack of test cases: >> I'm a bit disappointed that the spam problem is fixed, as I was >> using it as an opportunity to try and get bogofilter, which I use >> with Kmail to filter When I read his reply, I thought he was trying to be helpful. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables!" unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: John Hasler on 9 Jan 2008 16:30 Chris Howie writes: > The comment I posted did have a useful suggestion. Try to bait spammers > with a test email address. Post it places, give it to spammers. You'll > have more test data than you know what to do with. But it may not have the right "flavor". I've found that different addresses get distinctly different mixes of spam. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: John Hasler on 9 Jan 2008 16:30 Nigel Henry writes: > I am genuinly trying to resolve the problem of filtering out spam, that > occasionally turns up on mailing lists. As I've said bogofilter works > fine with non mailing list spam, but something extra is needed to deal > with mailing list spam. I find that Spamassassin works fine on spam that comes via mailing-lists. Do you somehow have the lists whitelisted? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Nigel Henry on 9 Jan 2008 17:00 On Wednesday 09 January 2008 22:12, Chris Howie wrote: > On Jan 9, 2008 3:59 PM, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote: > > I was trying to get a resolution to the problem of how to set up > > bogofilter to > > deal with mailing list spam, not deliberately attract spammers. A link to > > a > > known mailing list that wasn't too bothered about spam on their list > > would have been usefull though, as the Debian guys have resolved the spam > > flood problem. > > I didn't know that's what you were looking for; now I do. You rushed to > the assumption that I was trying to be obnoxious, or at least that's how > your reply came across, while my message was intended to be nothing of the > sort. > > I don't believe I am wound up. Some time back we had an influx of spam on > > > the > > list, and I thought I'd fixed it within bogofilter. The spam mails to the > > list were stopped by the Debian guys, so it was difficult to know if what > > I > > had done had fixed it or not. The latest flood of spam from the list > > showed > > that I hadn't fixed it, as it was all turning up in my Debian mailbox. > > Some > > folks were indicating that they used bogofilter, which is why I posted > > this > > question. > > I understand this, but your reaction was akin to a slap in the face after I > simply tried to be somewhat humorous while providing what I thought was a > helpful suggestion. I ask you to reread my post in this light. > > > Also please don't top post. Reading an answer before a question is not > > easy. > > Noted. (I usually do this, though I am admittedly a bit lazy today.) I appreciate that your post was on the humerous side, but am trying to get some sort of fix as how to deal with mailing list spam with bogofilter. Since I've been on the list there have been only 2 spam floods. Both have been resolved within 2 days or so, and seriously were not a problem. A bit annoying yes, but no more than that. My subject line "How to filter out mailing list spam with bogofilter" was used as some folks had indicated that they were using bogofilter, and I thought that they may have some suggestions for my problem. Most mailing lists filter spam effectively, and none of it turns up in your inbox, as does the Debian list. What I'd like though is a link to a really crappy mailing list, that couldn't care less about spam. I could use this mailing list to setup bogofilter to filter out the spam mails that I was receiving from this list. It's all a bit academic, as very little spam comes from mailing lists, but it would be nice to no how to deal with it before it arrives, and as it has done on a couple of occasions on the Debian lists. Just trying to resolve a problem. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Nigel Henry on 9 Jan 2008 17:40 On Wednesday 09 January 2008 22:03, John Hasler wrote: > Nigel Henry writes: > > I am genuinly trying to resolve the problem of filtering out spam, that > > occasionally turns up on mailing lists. As I've said bogofilter works > > fine with non mailing list spam, but something extra is needed to deal > > with mailing list spam. > > I find that Spamassassin works fine on spam that comes via mailing-lists. > Do you somehow have the lists whitelisted? > > -- > John Hasler No Whitelisting. Bogofilter was setup in it's default configuration with Kmail, and has dealt with all the ordinary non mailing list spam with no problems. I think that using bogofilters ignorelist.db may resolve the problem of spam from mailing lists, but without any spammy mailing lists to use as a test, it's a bit of a lost cause at the moment. Maybe I should just leave things as they are. The only mailing lists I've had spam problems with are the Debian lists, and on both occasions the problem was resolved within 2 or 3 days. Not a problem really, but I was just trying to see if bogofilter could deal with spam from a mailing list, where normally all the mail that came from the mailing list was hammy, and bogofilter was saying that anything from the Debian lists was ham, because usually it is. Thanks for the reply. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
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