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From: editor on 18 Feb 2010 19:28 Cutting bottom straps off camera bag today, I accidentally made a tiny cut about 1/4" long in "second bottom" layer of bag. Bag apparently is polypropylene. Any ideas on how to fix it - so it doesn't spread?
From: tony cooper on 18 Feb 2010 20:27 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:28:33 -0800 (PST), "editor(a)netpath.net" <editor(a)netpath.net> wrote: >Cutting bottom straps off camera bag today, I accidentally made a tiny >cut about 1/4" long in "second bottom" layer of bag. Bag apparently >is polypropylene. >Any ideas on how to fix it - so it doesn't spread? Bicycle tire patch kits are sold at auto supply stores for under $2.00 Ugly, but if it's in the bottom of the bag no one will notice. Test the glue on a small spot, though. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Nervous Nick on 18 Feb 2010 21:05 On Feb 18, 6:28 pm, "edi...(a)netpath.net" <edi...(a)netpath.net> wrote: > Cutting bottom straps off camera bag today, I accidentally made a tiny > cut about 1/4" long in "second bottom" layer of bag. Bag apparently > is polypropylene. > Any ideas on how to fix it - so it doesn't spread? Sew it with heavy duty nylon button thread, then cover the suture with a patch--maybe a patch like Tony suggests. I can almost guarantee that this fix will outlast the bag. -- YOP...
From: Better Info on 18 Feb 2010 21:18 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:27:00 -0500, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:28:33 -0800 (PST), "editor(a)netpath.net" ><editor(a)netpath.net> wrote: > >>Cutting bottom straps off camera bag today, I accidentally made a tiny >>cut about 1/4" long in "second bottom" layer of bag. Bag apparently >>is polypropylene. >>Any ideas on how to fix it - so it doesn't spread? > >Bicycle tire patch kits are sold at auto supply stores for under $2.00 >Ugly, but if it's in the bottom of the bag no one will notice. Test >the glue on a small spot, though. Polypropylene is one of the more difficult plastics to glue. The adhesive for rubberized compounds (as in a bike-tire repair kit) will have no effect on poly plastics. Not even super-glue will stick to poly plastics. That's why the cap for super-glue tubes is made of poly. One of the very few adhesives I've found that works is a product made by LocTite, called "Stik 'n Seal" in the USA. A water-glass clear silicone type of compound. Though I doubt it would work real well for a tear or cut, but it does adhere glass, metal and other substances to poly plastics when given fuller layer contact. You could try applying this glue to a small patch of similar or clear poly and giving the two more surface contact across the cut, patch-style. The only other solution for poly mending is using a patch and adhering it with light pressure and heat, very very very carefully, so you don't do even greater damage. This is rarely possible on an already assembled product due to curvatures and existing seams. But does work when you have flat sheets that can be seamed this way. Many a beach-toy is constructed in this manner. If you can find a water-bed repair kit, that might also be effective. On TV many years ago they used to sell a vinyl repair-kit for car upholstery cuts and rips that might work. It used to come packaged with various colors to mix together for color-matching. With texture swatches that you apply over the "glue" while it sets up to match the original upholstery texture. Where you can find that today I have no idea. Advice for mixing upholstery-vinyl compounds (a type of poly) with other types of poly and having it work would have to come from someone that's ever tried it. I doubt it would work, but it's possible.
From: Bob Williams on 19 Feb 2010 05:16 editor(a)netpath.net wrote: > Cutting bottom straps off camera bag today, I accidentally made a tiny > cut about 1/4" long in "second bottom" layer of bag. Bag apparently > is polypropylene. > Any ideas on how to fix it - so it doesn't spread? As has been noted, polypropylene is almost impossible to glue with conventional adhesives. However, It can be repaired with a "Hot Glue Gun" The molten adhesive is polyethylene, which is only one carbon atom away from polypropylene. Make sure that the hot glue is very hot and flows easily. It will probably help if you also warm the site of the tear to soften the polypropylene to make it more receptive to the molten polyethylene hot glue. Good Luck. Bob Williams
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