From: Tsang Kim Wai on 9 Jan 2010 23:30 Hi All, I am a newbie in Debian and have just installed Debian 5 (lenny) stable release. I have used "apt-get install eclipse" to install a version of eclipse into my system and that version runs well. However, later I find that the installed version of eclipse is 3.2 and I would like to install the current eclipse release 3.5 as an alternative of eclipse 3.2. I find that eclipse 3.5 Linux version (eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz) could be downloaded from the eclipse site but I do not know how to install it into Debian to make it co-exist with the older eclipse 3.2. Any suggestion ? Regards Lawrence
From: Tsang Kim Wai on 10 Jan 2010 01:30 Hi Mat, Thanks for your suggestion. I have downloaded the "eclipse_3.4.1-1_i386.deb" file from the link you provided. I am now finding information on installing this eclipse 3.4 using "dpkg". However, one point I want to be clear in advance is that would the eclipse 3.4 installation using "dpkg" replaces / corrupts my old eclipse 3.2 installation. Moreover, the eclipse 3.4 ".deb" file has just 120KB size. Is that reasonable with such a big application ? Thanks for any suggestion. Regards Lawrence On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Mathias <m9236(a)abc.se> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Tsang Kim Wai wrote: > >> >> Hi All, >> >> I am a newbie in Debian and have just installed Debian 5 (lenny) >> stable >> release. I have used "apt-get install eclipse" to install a version of >> eclipse into my system and that version runs well. >> >> However, later I find that the installed version of eclipse is 3.2 >> and >> I would like to install the current eclipse release 3.5 as an alternative >> of >> eclipse 3.2. >> >> I find that eclipse 3.5 Linux version >> (eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz) could be downloaded from the >> eclipse site but I do not know how to install it into Debian to make it >> co-exist with the older eclipse 3.2. >> >> I see that version 3.4.11 is in sid/unstable: > http://packages.debian.org/sid/eclipse > > I guess that could be installed, without too much effort, it has a few > dependencies though. I was hoping to find 3.5 in experimental, but no such > luck. A tar.gz archive like the one you mention above is not that hard to > install either, it's not not as easy as just using apt-get or dpkg. I guess > you could unpack it (tar -zxcf) in /usr/local somewhere and try. That can't > damaged anything. :) > > Mat
From: Liam O'Toole on 10 Jan 2010 07:20 On 2010-01-10, Tsang Kim Wai <tkwinfo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > --001636e0b6ed2ae890047cc97805 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Mat, > > Thanks for your suggestion. > > I have downloaded the "eclipse_3.4.1-1_i386.deb" file from the link you > provided. I am now finding information on installing this eclipse 3.4 using > "dpkg". > > However, one point I want to be clear in advance is that would the > eclipse 3.4 installation using "dpkg" replaces / corrupts my old eclipse 3.2 > installation. Moreover, the eclipse 3.4 ".deb" file has just 120KB size. Is > that reasonable with such a big application ? Installing the downloaded .deb file would upgrade your existing installation. The file is small because its dependencies (eclipse-jdt, etc.) contain most of the binaries. You would have to download and install those as well. I think it would be easier to unpack the .tar.gz file. as others have suggested. -- Liam O'Toole Birmingham, United Kingdom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Tsang Kim Wai on 10 Jan 2010 09:20 Hi Nick Douma, Liam O'Toole and Mathias, It works by simply extracting the downloaded Eclipse 3.5 binary file into /usr/local/eclipse-3.5/ directory and then run the eclipse script under that directory. But I think, the eclipse 3.5 simple installation may depend on some configurations of my old eclipse 3.2 installation. That is, I may not un-install eclipse 3.2 while expecting eclipse 3.5 would work properly. Is that the case ? Anyway, thank you for all your suggestions. Regards Lawrence On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Nick Douma <n.douma(a)nekoconeko.nl> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10-1-2010 5:25, Tsang Kim Wai wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am a newbie in Debian and have just installed Debian 5 (lenny) > > stable release. I have used "apt-get install eclipse" to install a > > version of eclipse into my system and that version runs well. > > > > However, later I find that the installed version of eclipse is 3.2 > > and I would like to install the current eclipse release 3.5 as an > > alternative of eclipse 3.2. > > > > I find that eclipse 3.5 Linux version > > (eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz) could be downloaded from the > > eclipse site but I do not know how to install it into Debian to make it > > co-exist with the older eclipse 3.2. > > > > Any suggestion ? > > > > Regards > > Lawrence > > > > Seeing as you can already start and use Eclipse 3.2, upgrading to the > new 3.5 version would be as simple as downloading the archive from the > website (which you already did), and then extract it to a location of > your choice. You can then run ./eclipse from the extracted location. To > make this easier, you could symlink the executable to /usr/bin. AFAIK > the eclipse installation are self-contained, and don't bite the already > installed Eclipse 3.2 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAktJpbgACgkQkPq5zKsAFiiDgwCfZnfPcwtEu+JmSY7EN/l3QOuh > 3H0An1f+IunxHgcp/Ulqr1L3Z2Lyn6H2 > =arex > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster(a)lists.debian.org > >
From: Tsang Kim Wai on 10 Jan 2010 18:10 Hi All, Thanks for all your information. The eclipse 3.5 works OK. But if I want to try one of Mathias suggestion to upgrade my old eclipse 3.2 to eclipse 3.4 in the unstable release, then, in my understanding, I would need to edit the "/etc/apt/sources.list" file to change any "lenny" keywork to "sid". My sources.list file contains the following lines : deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free Then I think replacing all "lenny" to "sid" should change my Debian system from stable to un-stable release so that I could upgrade eclipse 3.2 to eclipse 3.4 by running just "apt-get install eclipse". Is that the case ? Alternatively, if I don't change my Debian system to un-stable release through editing "sources.list", could I still upgrade my old eclipse 3.2 to eclipse 3.4 in other way ? Any comment / suggestion. Regards Lawrence On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Mathias <m9236(a)abc.se> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Tsang Kim Wai wrote: > > Hi Nick Douma, Liam O'Toole and Mathias, >> >> It works by simply extracting the downloaded Eclipse 3.5 binary file >> into /usr/local/eclipse-3.5/ directory and then run the eclipse script >> under >> that directory. But I think, the eclipse 3.5 simple installation may >> depend >> on some configurations of my old eclipse 3.2 installation. That is, I may >> not un-install eclipse 3.2 while expecting eclipse 3.5 would work >> properly. >> Is that the case ? >> >> Anyway, thank you for all your suggestions. >> >> Yeah, seeing how the apt system on debian mostly works to maintain and > upgrade the packages to newer version, the 3.4 that is in unstable would > replace the 3.2 one, unless some changes were made to the newer package. > > As mentioned earlier, creating a symlink in /usr/bin seems like a good idea > too. > > Mat
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