From: Charles Dye on
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:54:09 +0000 (UTC), "DOS Guy" <me(a)privacy.net>
wrote:

>In order to use -ANY- peripheral device connected to a USB port
>from true DOS, you -MUST- install a third-party, DOS-based USB
>software driver.
>
>True DOS knows nothing about USB ports, and can't access them
>without a driver.

Unless your BIOS supports USB drives, in which case no drivers are
needed. Most newer machines do include BIOS support for USB
mass-storage devices, and can even boot from them.

--
Charles Dye raster(a)highfiber.com

From: Steve Calfee on
On 19 Jun 2005 13:12:15 GMT, Martin Str|mberg <ams(a)speedy.ludd.ltu.se>
wrote:

>In comp.os.msdos.programmer Steve Calfee <stevexcalfee(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It is a chicken and egg thing. Once I have a bootable DOS drive I can
>> sys copy onto other dos drives. But I do not have a bootable DOS
>> system than can access the USB/CF dongle. I have a linux system but no
>> compact flash reader/writer hardware.
>
>Do you have a drive letter for the CF in WINDOWS? If so, assuming the
>CF is on G:, use FreeDOS sys (from a bootable FreeDOS floppy in A: for
>example) and just do "sys g:".
>
Its worse than that. My laptop runs winxp and does not have a floppy
drive. For some reason the iso image does not boot from DVD/CD. But
even if it did, freedos does not know how to use usb to get to the
flash drive.

winxp does not allow me to access the "hard drives" hidden areas, so
the freedos sys command does not work under the dos console for winxp.

So with winxp I can copy files, but not make the cf bootable. I have
to start with msdos, and use the freedos sys command. However, I have
apparently hit a bug in freedos where it boots but does not load
config.sys or fdconfig.sys. SO I am stuck.

Thanks, Steve

There is no "x" in my email address.
From: linnix on


Steve Calfee wrote:
> On 19 Jun 2005 13:12:15 GMT, Martin Str|mberg <ams(a)speedy.ludd.ltu.se>
> wrote:
>
> >In comp.os.msdos.programmer Steve Calfee <stevexcalfee(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> It is a chicken and egg thing. Once I have a bootable DOS drive I can
> >> sys copy onto other dos drives. But I do not have a bootable DOS
> >> system than can access the USB/CF dongle. I have a linux system but no
> >> compact flash reader/writer hardware.
> >
> >Do you have a drive letter for the CF in WINDOWS? If so, assuming the
> >CF is on G:, use FreeDOS sys (from a bootable FreeDOS floppy in A: for
> >example) and just do "sys g:".
> >
> Its worse than that. My laptop runs winxp and does not have a floppy
> drive. For some reason the iso image does not boot from DVD/CD. But
> even if it did, freedos does not know how to use usb to get to the
> flash drive.

Do you have access to a desktop, or do you have to do this on a laptop?
Again, it depends on whether you are doing it once or many times. We
can either send you the CF or the adapter for you to do it. Once you
have the bootable CF, you can sys and/or copy another from the PC104
board.

>
> winxp does not allow me to access the "hard drives" hidden areas, so
> the freedos sys command does not work under the dos console for winxp.

Even if it does, you will sys the XP system files and crash with the
rest of freedos. You have to boot from a clean freedos to "sys".

>
> So with winxp I can copy files, but not make the cf bootable. I have
> to start with msdos, and use the freedos sys command. However, I have

Same problem, you have to boot from freedos, not msdos. You are mixing
apples and oranges.

> apparently hit a bug in freedos where it boots but does not load
> config.sys or fdconfig.sys. SO I am stuck.

I believe you. I have loaded freedos on 8M CF from 5 floppies. You
can't mix any files with msdos or windows, since they have the same
file names very often. That's why our highly skilled engineer have to
charge you $1 per floppy (for swapping and waiting).

>
> Thanks, Steve
>
> There is no "x" in my email address.

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