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From: David Stone on 10 Jun 2010 09:45
In article
<nospam.m-m-EE5C2E.23094709062010(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote:

> I changed the formatting to use a <TABLE> instead of <img src...
> align="right"> and the reader icon will now appear.
>
> But I cannot get the diagram to show up.
>
> The one that works minus the diagram:
>
> http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/smokesys.html
>
> the one that does not:
>
> http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/smokesys1.html
>
> Are there some HTML rules about this somewhere?

There are lots of html "rules", but none of them will
relate specifically to the appearance of the "Reader"
button in Safari's tool bar.

Actually, checking some of my own pages suggests that
Safari/Reader is inconsistent in its behaviour - follow
any of the "tours" here through, and you'll see what I
mean:
http://www.chem.utoronto.ca/coursenotes/analsci/instruments.html

For example, click on the left-hand image on that page,
and watch the "Reader" button appear on the linked page,
yet both have images within text, centred within the page!

Obviously, Apple have some bugs to work out with this one...
From: Sandman on 12 Jun 2010 02:49
In article <090620101418137065%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> > Any hints?
>
> Yes, a big one. Get "Readability" (free). Go to
> <http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/> and choose your options
> in step 1, then drag the link to your bookmarks bar in step 2. It could
> hardly be easier. I'm sure that Safari Reader will be improved over
> time, but it doesn't yet hold a candle to "Readability."

Eh, for your information, Safari 5 uses Arc90's Readibility for their
Reader function... :)


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From: Davoud on 12 Jun 2010 11:19
Davoud:
> > Get "Readability" (free). Go to
> > <http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/> and choose your options
> > in step 1, then drag the link to your bookmarks bar in step 2. It could
> > hardly be easier. I'm sure that Safari Reader will be improved over
> > time, but it doesn't yet hold a candle to "Readability."

Sandman:
> Eh, for your information, Safari 5 uses Arc90's Readibility for their
> Reader function... :)

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Safari uses some of the
features of Readability? I say that because, while I'm sure that Safari
Reader will be improved over time, it doesn't yet hold a candle to
"Readability," and all the smug "for your informations" and smileys in
the world don't change that fact.

Davoud

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From: M-M on 13 Jun 2010 00:35
In article <mr-36A362.08495812062010(a)News.Individual.NET>,
Sandman <mr(a)sandman.net> wrote:

> Safari 5 uses Arc90's Readibility for their
> Reader function...


That still does not tell me _how to code web pages that will work
properly_. Readability does not render any better than Safari 5.

Sometimes the beginning gets cut off, sometimes the end. Sometimes the
images show, sometimes not.

I would like to know what HTML breaks the Reader function.

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From: Sandman on 13 Jun 2010 13:24
In article <120620101119362423%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> Davoud:
> > > Get "Readability" (free). Go to
> > > <http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/> and choose your options
> > > in step 1, then drag the link to your bookmarks bar in step 2. It could
> > > hardly be easier. I'm sure that Safari Reader will be improved over
> > > time, but it doesn't yet hold a candle to "Readability."
>
> Sandman:
> > Eh, for your information, Safari 5 uses Arc90's Readibility for their
> > Reader function... :)
>
> Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Safari uses some of the
> features of Readability? I say that because, while I'm sure that Safari
> Reader will be improved over time, it doesn't yet hold a candle to
> "Readability," and all the smug "for your informations" and smileys in
> the world don't change that fact.

No, I'm saying that the code used in Safari for their Reader
functionality is the open source code from Arc90's Readability
project. While specific features of their implementation may differ,
it's the same underlying code.




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