From: David Webber on

"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message
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>>.... Logic tells me
>>taht somewhere there *must* be a way around demanding validation using the
>>DTD file referenced in the document!
> ****
> Probably because the naive designers of these libraries have never, ever,
> once in their
> entire professional lives, been on a computer that did not have a
> high-bandwidth
> connection to the Microsoft servers, so how could anyone possibly live any
> other way?

That summarises my feelings on the matter eloquently enough. :-)

> So find a library that either meets your needs or which can be modified to
> meet them.

The XML DOM is a steep enough learning curve that I need *lots* of
documentation. MSXML isn't too bad at that - so i'll persevere with it and
structure my code so I can fairly easily substitute another library when I'm
more at home with it. (One advantage of the Microsoft option is that it is
there on the computer - as I understand it (XP is my base platform now) -
and I don't have to go redistributing more DLLs. Stiil Xerces only seems
to be a single DLL so....

Anyway, I'm travelling with my laptop tomorrow, so I won't be able to work
on this stuff :-( [I don't fancy validating large XML files through a
mobile phone dongle.]

Dave
--
David Webber
Author of 'Mozart the Music Processor'
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From: David Ching on
"Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanniDOTdicanio(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote in message
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> I completely agree with Joe's points (in fact, I'm not a big fan of those
> modern trends like "cloud-computing: everything is on the web, just use
> dumb machines only to connect to the web"; the web is good, but desktop
> and local storage are good as well).
>

Being a Type A control freak, I used to demand my personal desktop PC and
think the web was only for socially misfit Facebook junkies. But nowadays
with the chaotic family life, I don't bother setting up my own PC at home.
Instead, I just use GotoMyPC to work on my office PC from whatever PC is
free in my home. Other than a very slight lag in screen updates, it's
pretty close to just being in front of my office PC. Then it hit me a few
weeks ago that this is really what cloud computing is all about, except it's
even better since I'm not responsible for maintaining the PC I'm logged
into. No more applying Windows Updates, etc. I get most of the benefits of
my own PC without the hassle.

If I were still single and without kids, I would probably just open the
laptop or maintain a second PC at home. But with the 3 year old constantly
turning the PC off to get my attention and pushing the keys on the keyboard,
sometimes I only get 4 minutes at a time to work, so I don't have the luxury
of even opening the laptop. GotoMyPC really eases my mind. Once people get
used to cloud computing, I don't think they will ever go back.

-- David


From: Giovanni Dicanio on
"David Ching" <dc(a)remove-this.dcsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Being a Type A control freak, I used to demand my personal desktop PC and
> think the web was only for socially misfit Facebook junkies.

I've never thought that. In fact, I wrote:

> the web is good, but desktop
> and local storage are good as well).

For example, I like GMail: I think it's a quality and useful web app (e.g. I
can read and write emails from different PCs, I don't have to sync emails
from one PC to another, etc.)


> If I were still single and without kids, I would probably just open the
> laptop or maintain a second PC at home. But with the 3 year old
> constantly turning the PC off to get my attention and pushing the keys on
> the keyboard, sometimes I only get 4 minutes at a time to work, so I don't
> have the luxury of even opening the laptop. GotoMyPC really eases my
> mind. Once people get used to cloud computing, I don't think they will
> ever go back.

Your example of using GotoMyPC to use your remote office PC from home is a
very good one.

But, suppose that you want to make a movie with your camera of your 3 year
old to save the beautiful moments for the future: if you want to do some
video editing, then burning the DVD, etc. then I think that you really need
a desktop PC.
I have no idea of the quality of the throughput band of your Internet
connection, but here it would be *very slow* to upload the movie bits from
the videocamera to some web site, then do videoediting remotely, then
transferring back to local PC to burn a DVD.
I think that videoediting is an example of application that is better done
locally.

So, my point is: just use the right tool for the right job (like in
programming languages :)

I contest both the position of "web is good only for the misfit Facebook
junkies" (in fact, there are useful web apps) and the position of "we only
need cloud computing and dumb terminals" (in fact, I think that there are
jobs better done locally, like videoediting).
I just think that both web and local computing are useful :)

G


From: David Ching on
"Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanniDOTdicanio(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote in message
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> But, suppose that you want to make a movie with your camera of your 3 year
> old to save the beautiful moments for the future: if you want to do some
> video editing, then burning the DVD, etc. then I think that you really
> need a desktop PC.
> I have no idea of the quality of the throughput band of your Internet
> connection, but here it would be *very slow* to upload the movie bits from
> the videocamera to some web site, then do videoediting remotely, then
> transferring back to local PC to burn a DVD.
> I think that videoediting is an example of application that is better done
> locally.
>

Sure, multimedia is still something that you must do locally. But what
about something like Visual Studio development? I wouldn't be adverse to
running Visual Studio in the cloud assuming the source code I'm working on
can be safe. IOW, if MS created Visual Studio Live, I would be willing to
try it out.


-- David

From: Giovanni Dicanio on
"David Ching" <dc(a)remove-this.dcsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Sure, multimedia is still something that you must do locally.

Yes.

> But what about something like Visual Studio development? I wouldn't be
> adverse to running Visual Studio in the cloud assuming the source code I'm
> working on can be safe.

This is a very interesting idea.

> IOW, if MS created Visual Studio Live, I would be willing to try it out.

Me, too!

G