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From: Bubba on 16 Jun 2010 11:15 Greetings, we were given short note for doing a project on college (two days ago, due is on Monday), that is related to OOP, or to be exact, MFC library. Unfortunately, we were given literally no documentation, so it's free for all. Basically, I have to create application with at least two forms or dialogues. Application has to be able to show persons in a list, and that those persons can be sorted by name or surname. They can also be sorted by city or address, but then we have to use tree control. Person can be removed, added or changed. Each person can get indefinite telephone numbers and previous addressee. It also must be possible to save data when exiting the application and loading them afterwards. I did some Googleing and got books, but none seems to have systematic for my problem, in other words, they seem to be to vast in handling the subject, so I'd like to know what's the best way to start doing this type of application. Best regards and thanks in advance! -- "If you lie to the compiler, �|� .-'``'-.,_,.-'``'-., it will get its revenge." �|� '-.,_,.-'``'-.,_,.-' -- Henry Spencer �|� /��\ � http://math2.ath.cx � �|� '-.,_,.-'``'-.,_,.-'
From: Giovanni Dicanio on 16 Jun 2010 11:30 On 16/06/2010 17:15, Bubba wrote: > we were given short note for doing a project on college (two days ago, due > is on Monday), that is related to OOP, or to be exact, MFC library. > Unfortunately, we were given literally no documentation, so it's free for > all. Glad that some colleges still teach MFC... :) However, I think you can't do this in a week unless you have previous knowledge of C++ and MFC. > I did some Googleing and got books, but none seems to have systematic for > my problem, in other words, they seem to be to vast in handling the > subject You can learn "building blocks" from the books, but then you have to put them together to build your entire app. If you want more specific help feel free to post... Giovanni
From: Hans-J. Ude on 16 Jun 2010 11:55 Bubba schrieb: >we were given short note for doing a project on college (two days ago, due >is on Monday), that is related to OOP, or to be exact, MFC library. >Unfortunately, we were given literally no documentation, so it's free for >all. The best point of starting with MFC is to understand the Scribble Tutorial. It covers so many aspects under one hood. Not always easy to find but here it is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa716528%28VS.60%29.aspx Hans
From: Joseph M. Newcomer on 16 Jun 2010 12:26 See below... On 16 Jun 2010 15:15:58 GMT, Bubba <nickname(a)banelli.biz.invalid> wrote: >Greetings, > >we were given short note for doing a project on college (two days ago, due >is on Monday), that is related to OOP, or to be exact, MFC library. >Unfortunately, we were given literally no documentation, so it's free for >all. **** Actually, you have thousands of pages of documentation. Which is almost worse than having none at all. It comes with your compiler. **** > >Basically, I have to create application with at least two forms or >dialogues. Application has to be able to show persons in a list, and that >those persons can be sorted by name or surname. They can also be sorted by >city or address, but then we have to use tree control. **** Sounds to me like a candiate for a dialog-based app. Fortunately, these are the easiest ones to write. But tossing an assignment like this at a student seems to be gratuitous sadism on the part of the instructor. I usually spend a couple hours showing my students how to create basic dialog-based apps. It is not trivial to get into, and OO programming is a tiny, tiny part of what is going on. > >Person can be removed, added or changed. Each person can get indefinite >telephone numbers and previous addressee. It also must be possible to save >data when exiting the application and loading them afterwards. > >I did some Googleing and got books, but none seems to have systematic for >my problem, in other words, they seem to be to vast in handling the >subject, so I'd like to know what's the best way to start doing this type >of application. ***** First, I consider this assignment grossly unfair. As someone who has taught and sometimes continues to teach it, I would consider an assignment like this that did not include in-class demonstrations of how to build an app to be impossible. You can convey this to your instructor for what little good it would do. Other than annoying him/her. Second, build a simple dialog-based app. Problem here is you have to learn a WHOLE LOT about edit controls, push buttons, list controls, etc. before you can begin to make sense of this, and that is a LOT to do in a single assignment without training! I'd never give an assignment this complex in my classes, and we spend about 30 hours just in lectures about how to use MFC. So your problem is NOT just "building a dialog" but understanding the sublties of a bunch of controls ALL AT ONCE. Note: I learned MFC by doing the Scribble tutorial and it took me about three days to get competent, and I was *already* a Windows programmer and knew all about the controls! It then took me two years to become an MFC "expert". Dialogs are easy. Controls are not hard, there's just a LOT to learn about them before you can use them well. You have every right to feel overwhelmed, and I don't have much advice except to buckle down and try the Scribble tutorial. It's the only thing out there that can give you half a chance! joe **** > >Best regards and thanks in advance! Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP] email: newcomer(a)flounder.com Web: http://www.flounder.com MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm
From: Stephen Wolstenholme on 16 Jun 2010 12:39 On 16 Jun 2010 15:15:58 GMT, Bubba <nickname(a)banelli.biz.invalid> wrote: >Greetings, > >we were given short note for doing a project on college (two days ago, due >is on Monday), that is related to OOP, or to be exact, MFC library. >Unfortunately, we were given literally no documentation, so it's free for >all. > >Basically, I have to create application with at least two forms or >dialogues. Application has to be able to show persons in a list, and that >those persons can be sorted by name or surname. They can also be sorted by >city or address, but then we have to use tree control. > >Person can be removed, added or changed. Each person can get indefinite >telephone numbers and previous addressee. It also must be possible to save >data when exiting the application and loading them afterwards. > >I did some Googleing and got books, but none seems to have systematic for >my problem, in other words, they seem to be to vast in handling the >subject, so I'd like to know what's the best way to start doing this type >of application. > >Best regards and thanks in advance! The project you describe is nearly impossible to do in the time allocated. It took me a few months to become confident using MFC despite the fact that I was already using a similar development system. Try the Scribble tutorial to find your feet and if you still have some time to spare start on the allocated project. If you manage to complete the project I will buy it! Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com
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