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From: Howard Brazee on 26 May 2010 13:19 On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: >>My take was that it was yet another example of just how unprofessional >>the IT industry has become, in particular in the US. Which may explain >>the ease with which business find moving work off shore. > >I do not see the IT business in the USA as being in any sort of different >condition than any other business in the USA... but perhaps my vision is >limited, aye. It is easier to move a company's IT offshore than its lawn mowing. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Bill Gunshannon on 26 May 2010 13:27 In article <htji7o$fqv$1(a)reader1.panix.com>, docdwarf(a)panix.com () writes: > In article <864tqhFobU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Bill Gunshannon <billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu> wrote: >>In article <htjd95$gt0$2(a)reader1.panix.com>, >> docdwarf(a)panix.com () writes: >>> In article >><10e47695-0457-4f52-8a9c-c724f5e75b21(a)y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, >>> Alistair Maclean <alistair.j.l.maclean(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>On May 25, 5:13?pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >>>>> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/How-to-Talk-Like-a-P... >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, >>>>> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace >>>>> to the legislature, and not to the executive department." >>>>> >>>>> - James Madison >>>> >>>>The author came up with some nice ones to squirrel away for a rainy >>>>day. >>> >>> 'And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past >>> one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater >>> purity, the less they are mixed together.' - James Madison >>> >> >>I think he was talking about the URL and not the quote by Madison. > > Could be... still a Right Fine Quotation, though. > >> >>My take was that it was yet another example of just how unprofessional >>the IT industry has become, in particular in the US. Which may explain >>the ease with which business find moving work off shore. > > I do not see the IT business in the USA as being in any sort of different > condition than any other business in the USA... but perhaps my vision is > limited, aye. > Sadly. I agree. But that doesn't decrease the cesspool that the IT indistry is sinking into. And, as a real IT Professional I am more concerned about my art than others. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
From: Bill Gunshannon on 26 May 2010 13:30 In article <hvlqv5hr19498r7skuov5pb7v9agjbk5ft(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> writes: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: > >>>My take was that it was yet another example of just how unprofessional >>>the IT industry has become, in particular in the US. Which may explain >>>the ease with which business find moving work off shore. >> >>I do not see the IT business in the USA as being in any sort of different >>condition than any other business in the USA... but perhaps my vision is >>limited, aye. > > It is easier to move a company's IT offshore than its lawn mowing. I don't really believe that is true. What is true is that too many companies see so little reason for staying here they are willing to accept the rather sizable risk in off-shoring. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
From: Anonymous on 26 May 2010 13:44 In article <hvlqv5hr19498r7skuov5pb7v9agjbk5ft(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: > >>>My take was that it was yet another example of just how unprofessional >>>the IT industry has become, in particular in the US. Which may explain >>>the ease with which business find moving work off shore. >> >>I do not see the IT business in the USA as being in any sort of different >>condition than any other business in the USA... but perhaps my vision is >>limited, aye. > >It is easier to move a company's IT offshore than its lawn mowing. It is as easy to move a company's lawn mowing offshore as it is to move its headquarters, entire. DD
From: Anonymous on 26 May 2010 13:52
In article <86540nFobU2(a)mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu> wrote: >In article <htji7o$fqv$1(a)reader1.panix.com>, > docdwarf(a)panix.com () writes: >> In article <864tqhFobU1(a)mid.individual.net>, >> Bill Gunshannon <billg999(a)cs.uofs.edu> wrote: [snip] >>>I think he was talking about the URL and not the quote by Madison. >> >> Could be... still a Right Fine Quotation, though. >> >>> >>>My take was that it was yet another example of just how unprofessional >>>the IT industry has become, in particular in the US. Which may explain >>>the ease with which business find moving work off shore. >> >> I do not see the IT business in the USA as being in any sort of different >> condition than any other business in the USA... but perhaps my vision is >> limited, aye. >> > >Sadly. I agree. But that doesn't decrease the cesspool that the IT >indistry is sinking into. And, as a real IT Professional I am more >concerned about my art than others. Have a care, Mr Gunshannon... this begins to sound like 'ahhhhhh, for the Oldene Dayse, when a (professional) could (profession) such as *ten* (professionals) cannot, today!' Just the other day I mentioned William Edwards Deming to a project leader... who had never heard of the fellow, of course. I gave a Brief History which pointed out that Deming was so *right* about how the quality of a manufactured product can be a reflection of the quality of the management of the corporation that produced it... .... that he had to a country where the industrial structure had been destroyed by a lost war because folks in the USA would not take him seriously. DD |