How to widen angle of view?
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From: Savageduck on 11 Aug 2010 17:47 On 2010-08-11 13:37:38 -0700, hummingbird <hummingbird(a)127.0.0.1> said: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:59:14 -0400, Mark F wrote : >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:37:18 +0200, jak bute >> <luver(a)katebeckinsale.com> wrote: >> >>> Is there some morphing software which can widen the angle of view in my >>> photos? >> Morphing SOFTWARE can't widen the angle of view. >> >> You could: >> . crop so the image is wider compared to height, but the angle of >> view actually remains the same. >> . pan and stitch, so the final image has a wider angle of view >> . use a telecompressor in back of the lens to increase the angle of >> view, then crop so only the horizontal range is extended >> . use a telecompressor in front of the lens - also increases angle >> of view, but probably inferior to using one in back of the lens >> . use an anamorphic lens converter in front of the lens. >> (These were available for >> camcorders a few years ago for around US$100 to allow doing 16:9 >> recording on a 4:3 camera, but I didn't find any around that price >> now. Canon RATIO CONVERTER RC-72 for about US$250 was a close as I >> found. Note that these were likely made for NTSC camcorders, so >> the optical quality might not be as good as is needed now-a-days.) >> There also were some in the US$1000 range for use with projectors. >> . use an anamorphic lens converter in back of the lens. (Think >> US$10K-25K >> >> Or, going beyond addons to your existing lens: I couldn't find any >> actual anamorphic lenses, but CinemaScope should have them and >> www.red.com seems to. Red Pro prim 25mm has about 56 degree by 31 >> degree field of view, about 1.8:1 (16:9 is 1.777:1) >> >>> >>> View from a rooftop in Wimbledon, London, UK >>> http://bayimg.com/aANiGaAcf.jpg >>> >>> View from a hilltop of Pao de Acucar, Rio, Brazil >>> http://bayimg.com/cAnIKaACF.jpg >>> >>> View from a rooftop in R. Piragibe Frota Aguiar, Rio >>> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsvfXri >>> >>> -hb- >>> (the REAL hummingbird) > > What are yer talking about? I want software to include more of the > panorama than I've already got in my pictures. Like the "landscape" > setting on my compact digicam but with more picture. > > -hb- > (the REAL hummingbird) What are you talking about? All the "landscape" setting on your compact camera does is a letterbox crop. It does not create visual data which it did not capture. If you want more of a panorama "picture", you are going to have to take more shots for SW stitching. If you want less of a narrow strip effect, take the shots with the camera oriented in the "portrait" or vertical position, and take enough overlapped shots to capture the panorama you want. You will not be able to suck more data out of thin air with software. This OP smells strongly of troll. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: tony cooper on 11 Aug 2010 17:55 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:07:43 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:8r366692j9b3q64iine7e4t13vs08fqb0o(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:37:38 +0100, hummingbird >> <hummingbird(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: >> >>>What are yer talking about? I want software to include more of the >>>panorama than I've already got in my pictures. Like the "landscape" >>>setting on my compact digicam but with more picture. >> >> The software that does this comes with the camera that changes gray >> sky to blue sky. >> > > >If you interpreted his meaning correctly, that software also produces images >without a camera or any other input device. I interpreted it correctly. He wants a Siskerized image capture system. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Franklin on 11 Aug 2010 19:44 Irwell wrote: >Helicon Filter has distortion capabilities. Anything that allows "za kAT" (posting today as "jak bute") to increase distortion of anything will be very appealing to him. He's not known for being able to deal with reality yer know, A very sad person all in all. Franklin (the REAL Franklin) -- "slime's my name and slime's my game"
From: za kAT on 11 Aug 2010 19:54 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:44:52 +0200, Franklin wrote: > Irwell wrote: >>Helicon Filter has distortion capabilities. > > Anything that allows "za kAT" (posting today as "jak bute") to increase > distortion of anything will be very appealing to him. He's not known for > being able to deal with reality yer know, A very sad person all in all. -FORGERY- by anonymous remailing lying scum Chris Millbank. aka hummingbird, jak bute, HTH, ..... and several hundred more -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
From: socket on 12 Aug 2010 12:48 Savageduck wrote: > On 2010-08-11 13:37:38 -0700, hummingbird <hummingbird(a)127.0.0.1> > said: > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:59:14 -0400, Mark F wrote : >>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:37:18 +0200, jak bute >>> <luver(a)katebeckinsale.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there some morphing software which can widen the angle of view >>>> in my photos? >>> >>> Morphing SOFTWARE can't widen the angle of view. >>> >>> You could: >>> . crop so the image is wider compared to height, but the angle of >>> view actually remains the same. >>> . pan and stitch, so the final image has a wider angle of view >>> . use a telecompressor in back of the lens to increase the angle of >>> view, then crop so only the horizontal range is extended >>> . use a telecompressor in front of the lens - also increases angle >>> of view, but probably inferior to using one in back of the lens >>> . use an anamorphic lens converter in front of the lens. >>> (These were available for >>> camcorders a few years ago for around US$100 to allow doing 16:9 >>> recording on a 4:3 camera, but I didn't find any around that price >>> now. Canon RATIO CONVERTER RC-72 for about US$250 was a close as I >>> found. Note that these were likely made for NTSC camcorders, so >>> the optical quality might not be as good as is needed now-a-days.) >>> There also were some in the US$1000 range for use with projectors. >>> . use an anamorphic lens converter in back of the lens. (Think >>> US$10K-25K >>> >>> Or, going beyond addons to your existing lens: I couldn't find any >>> actual anamorphic lenses, but CinemaScope should have them and >>> www.red.com seems to. Red Pro prim 25mm has about 56 degree by 31 >>> degree field of view, about 1.8:1 (16:9 is 1.777:1) >>> >>>> >>>> View from a rooftop in Wimbledon, London, UK >>>> http://bayimg.com/aANiGaAcf.jpg >>>> >>>> View from a hilltop of Pao de Acucar, Rio, Brazil >>>> http://bayimg.com/cAnIKaACF.jpg >>>> >>>> View from a rooftop in R. Piragibe Frota Aguiar, Rio >>>> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsvfXri >>>> >>>> -hb- >>>> (the REAL hummingbird) >> >> What are yer talking about? I want software to include more of the >> panorama than I've already got in my pictures. Like the "landscape" >> setting on my compact digicam but with more picture. >> >> -hb- >> (the REAL hummingbird) > > What are you talking about? > > All the "landscape" setting on your compact camera does is a > letterbox crop. It does not create visual data which it did not > capture. If you want more of a panorama "picture", you are going > to have to take more shots for SW stitching. > > If you want less of a narrow strip effect, take the shots with > the camera oriented in the "portrait" or vertical position, and > take enough overlapped shots to capture the panorama you want. > You will not be able to suck more data out of thin air with > software. He obviously wants to widen the landscape beyond the images he has taken. If you don't have anything useful to say to him then don't say it. HTH -socket
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